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Blu-ray vs. HD DVD6736 Votes
Issue:Microsoft, Sony and dozens of other large corporations have spent years NOT agreeing on a standard format for the next generation DVD. The result: two separate and incompatible formats are being offered to consumers. Eventually, like Betamax and VHS before them, one will win and one will lose. As of now, which one will win and which one will lose is uncertain. What is certain is that consumers will lose. Why? Some consumers will buy the losing format and end up with obsolete equipment. Many more consumers will buy nothing until after there is a clear winner - and prices will remain high until a mass market is developed.Belief:It is our belief that we the consumers can determine the winner in this format war. How will we do this? By having YOU vote for the format you prefer to win (Click here or on "Comparison between Blu-ray and HD DVD" link in the "Learn More" section to the left to see a comparison between the two formats). Then we all agree to buy the format that wins the vote. OK, it's as much a social experiment as a consumer stand. But our goal is clear - push the losing format to drop out. Let's take control! WHY DID YOU VOTE AS YOU DID? Share your thoughts in the forum below.Loading People... |
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What an ignorant statement. Is this the kind of education they are pushing in Tennesse these days? That's really sad.
As a fellow Tennessean, I'd like you to try and rid yourself of an sterotypical images of a land full of rednecks and hillbillies. This is a proud State with a long and proud heritage. We had a class of gentility here in Dixie when Washington State was still an unknown entity full of savages. Nothing ignorant about the statement above, it's absolutely true. After the last Tsar was murdered, Russia was nothing but a psuedo-communistic "fruit bowl." You'll note that the gentleman from Tennessee also named Tchaikovskey as having been the best thing to out of Russia in the last century+. As you live in Seattle, perhaps you were just upset that he didn't mention the most over-rated musician of all time; you're own "homeboy," Jimi Hendrix. I rest my case. P.S. Admittely your Homer Simpson avatar is cute, but don't take homie too seriously. He's just a cartoon character you know.
I would want BLU-RAY if i'd called like HD-DVD.
BLU-RAY sounds crap.
HD-VMD IS THE NEXT WHAT I WANT, NOT BLU-RAY
Good for you Jimmy. Maybe you ought to spring for a new keybard before you worry about buying another player, I think your CAPS LOCK KEY IS BROKEN - LOL !!
Self appointed grammar police? I guess some people just think their poo smells better than others.
Another LOL.
I dumped my hddvd player on eBay. Got a whole $34.00 before PayPal's cut. Just took delivery on a beuatiful Sony BD3300ES Blu-Ray player. Now I see why Blu-Ray won. The player is 10x as solidly constructed as even the best Toshiba player I've ever seen, and it looks a little bit better the hddvd.
"The player is 10x as solidly constructed as even the best Toshiba player I've ever seen" - Based on what criteria? How are you qualified to make such an assessment? Did you inspect the soldering of each component? Did you count the transistors? Seriously, how can you back up such a statement?
Did you give them your hddvd titles for free in the deal?
I offered 2 as a buying incentive. Still only got 4 bids. Started the bidding at $29.95, the winning bid actually being ~$34 and change. And this was a 1080p player. Not the cheaper 1080i version. What a bust. I was never passionate about either format and hold no [ridiculous] alleigiance to any of the consumer electronic companies. I just wanted something reasonably afforadable that would make use of the important component in my mind, the $2400 Sony Bravia television. Some of these "goof balls" that will deny themselves the reality of a Bluray victory and keep trying to push a dead format are either liars or into such deep denial that they should [really] either get a life or seek guidance counseling. This is all "much ado about nothing," at least from the consumer standpoint. I fimrly believe, in truth, that any continuing bravado about the superiority of hddvd or it's demise is both ridculous and childish. I didn't visit here to smear anyone. I, like anyone else, am entitled to MY opinion, and just thought I'd share my experience with others, no more no less. NOTE: I still have 3 of the 5 free movies I got with my hddvd purchase. But, I didn't receive a single bid on any of them. So, I'm out another couple of bucks for listing fees. I ended up giving them to my nephew who has an XBox/hddvd player. Ya' know what? I'm really not out much as I enjoyed the thing for almost a year and only paid ~$150~ or so for the Toshiba player in the first place. No big deal, really. Ya' win some and ya' lose some, that's life.
Can't blame you for the pittance you recevied for the HD-DVD palyer, but as you said it's not that big a deal. At least you got something out of it. Glad to see you're enjoying Blu-Ray and not holding grudge like some of these nerds.
Marsha you sure sound bitter, maybe you should have waited longer to get in the HD game. Hopefully your not as bitter about your BR player when you have to replace it with a 2.0 profile player!
Did you read the same post as I did? She doesn't sound to bitter to me... Only one sounding bitter is you because you had to throw in a 2.0 dig. Do you realize that most of us don't care that much about 2.0? The focus is not on extras, but on getting high-def out to the masses. extras aren't the key to doing that. If they were, hddvd wouldn't be in the toilet right now.
Did you read Sony's most recent press release they are not looking for mass adoption yet, they believe they are still in the early adopter phase and are not looking forward to moving to mass adoption until 2009 or later. You should get on the same page as your heroes at Sony.
Blu ray player costs will stay high for at least a year. Toshiba drove the benchmark price down to fast for the manufacturers to be able to recover their development costs for Blu ray. Also they need to keep the prices high so that they can actually finish the format. Currently all of the stand alone players on the market are Profile 1.0 or 1.1 ( aka OBSOLETE ). Profile 2.0 will not show up until later this year. Then there is waiting for the studios to finally comply with Profile 2.0 requirements. This will put Blu ray as a viable investment out in the late 2010 or 2011 timeframe. It may be dead before it is finished.
Not all players. Profile 1.0 players will drop below $200 by Christmas. Most consumers don't care about PiP and Internet interactivity like hddvd supporters do...think about it, these are the same consumers who you would think will want to go with downloads instead of Blu-ray for getting movies in the future, yet the downloads aren't going to have PiP & other features. They basically just have the movie, which is all most consumers really care about getting. The extras are just that, extras...nothing more, nothing less.
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Blu-ray is already a viable investment for most consumers right now at profile 1.0, and the "dead before it's finished" ranting or "upconverting..." ranting is getting old really fast.
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hddvd supporters felt that the magical $200 mark is what consumers need to have mass adoption. Now is Blu-ray gets under that mark, these same hddvd supporters will all of a sudden change their minds, and say that only downloads or something other than sub $200 blu-ray players, will be viable for consumers. Do you see the contradiction? As I said, don't bring up the 1.0 profile fact into this for those sub $200 blu-ray players, because MOST consumers don't care about the extras like you do, else they wouldn't care for downloading either, right?
I disagree. Toshiba's "fire sale" was an obvious ploy and those $99-199 priced HD DVD units never established any realistic consumer benchmark for hi-def video.You watch, Bluray players from a number of leading manufacturers will drop and "settle" in price prior to end-2008. Post-2009 Holiday discounts will abound as always and volume and inter-corporation rivalry will tip the price continually downward as it always has. I also disagree with your interpretation of "obsolete." Profile 1.0 and 1.1 players are anything but obsolete. For example, I'm sitting at a PC with an intel-based Pentium D CPU that has been superceded by a number of Core and Core 2 Duo/Quad CPUs. Am also running XP SP2 as I don't like Vista. My system allows me to do anything that I could ever ask of it..........is it "obolete?" Bluray in one form (profile) or another will remain popular until 2015, at least. Maybe, if and when we ever see UDTV at a price point equvalent to todays HDTV sets, Bluray as we know it today will be superceded by another higher-res video playback scheme. Until then, buy Blu or forget about 1080p altogether.
hope so!! sony can ki$$ my a$$ I would have loved to see sony lose this thing but it did not happen so here i am can't afford to get hi-def dvd and that really SUCKS!!!! GO TO HELL SONY AND TAKE YOUR PS3 WITH YOU!!!!!
Try taking a Valium before posting again. Good grief, what a clear example of misdirected passion.
Sounds like you just upchucked a bowl of very sore grapes. As a matter of fact, and based on "reading between the lines" of your reply, am guessing you bought an XBox HDDVD addon. If that's the case, why don't you save your ranting for Microsoft. Or...if you didn't buy anything, don't complain. Do you really think that hi-definition 1080p vidoe players should REALLY cost $99-199? If so, you're out of touch with reality. Ipods, for example, play digital music and sell for more than that.
IPods also have gigs of memory, HD players don't. There is no reason why a good quality HD player should be much more than $200-250. Premium products or brands of course could cost more.
Yeah, and crapy quality, not high-def. You are now the anti high-def!
The conversation was IPods and digital music not IPods and any kind of video. What are you on about? You are always so busy defending Sony and the BDA you do not even read posts. Thank you for coming out, next time make sure your at the right ball field!
Yes, and we all know just how terribly expensive gigs of memory are these days. 250 gig HDDs for about $100, SD Cards for peanuts, and so on.
I wouldnt call $25 a GB cheap for SD. Also last I checked there were not any IPods using 3.5 inch hard drives. 2.5 hard are more than 3.5 and still aren't the kind used in IPods and 1.5 even more still yet and this is the size used in IPods. Its great to throw around numbers; but its better to know what you're talking about.
Agreed.
Agreed
Charles:
I am sure you have heard of a GoldStar player, check item 5 and item 6 of your region A list. GoldStar changed their name several years ago to LG (Lucky Goldstar).
Oh and heres your link:
http://ca.lge.com/en/abou t/corporate/htm...
Are you still stuck on the Goldstar thing? lol
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Just wait for Goldstar or should I say LG (whatever you want to call them), to start making Blu-ray players, oh and yes they will whent the timing is right for them to make money on the Blu-ray technology. They are a corporation, and corporations don't have pride, just bottom lines for making profit.