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Gay marriage, gay rights!109 Votes
Issue:Many people have a problem with gay people wanting to get married n have the same the rights as everyone else. why is it so bad for someone to love somone n want to be with them?? Understand why, is what people don't do. why do we have to be killed because of who we are? Why do we have to be pushed away n not understanded??? well now lets be heard! Belief:I want to know how MY marriage to someone would have anything to do with anyone but me n my partner. so why can't we have the same rights as everyone else?? why can't people understand that it is not a chose to be gay! We are who we are n we need to be hear!! I seem to not understand why people in the world are always trying to stop other people from being happy! this only means they aren't happy in their own lifes. But don't stop me from living my life happy n with my family! Loading People... |
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did you know that the bible also says its wrong to wear clothing with mixed materials??
The person who wrote that was prolly offended by someone who was gay and thought every gay person in the world was like that. Revenge is bad, and we all know it! (I`m straight)
it shouldnt matter if ur gay it should matter if 2 ppl love each other nothing should stand in the way. But thats just my opinion.
Gay marriages should NOT be allowed. Being gay is against God it is immoral. Gays should not have the right to marry. Not to mention it's really gross, liking someone of the same gender romantically. (Don't mean to offend. Just what I think.)
should gays/lesbians be judged by god for loving, or will he judge you for hating??
i'm all for gay marriage, i think everyone should have the same rights in this country, it's horrible to exclude ppl. and yes, even though i'm catholic and was raised that it's wrong, i also have a mind of my own, and i don't think people should judge others just because they might be different. i have friends who are gay and i know how upset they get when ppl are closed-minded and assholes to them. so RoCk On for equal rights of gay marriage.
Kim and Cherie, thanks for posting and letting us know how you feel. When I read this petition I sensed some anger and while I am one of "those" Christians, I thought it would be good to listen to what happened with the promise I wouldn't comment or debate, just listen. It's true that I views on this issue but I thought if I made the promise not to comment but only listen, Lauren, Roxanne and others would feel more comfortable to share how they were treated by others people including Christians. I'm sorry if my post down below came out the other way. Wes
The U.S. Constitution guarantees equal treatment under the law. If everyone is equal, then EVERYONE has the right to get married, or AT LEAST receive all of the exact same benefits as all other married couples. I don't see how sooooo many people can just completely ignore these facts!
Hi Lauren and Wendy I'll be away for the next five days. If you post and I don't give my thanks for doing so, please be patient.
All GLBT's deserve the same rights as everyone else and as a bisexual myself, I think it's time we stand up for it. We are all human, therefore we deserve the same rights, no matter who we like or who we are.
i fully agree with what your saying. all GLBTs should have the same rights. im bisexual myself and certain people in college will no longer look me in the eye. im bi but not diseased they act like im a different person to who i 'was' before they found out but im not. we should stand up for who we are and what we believe in!
I don't disagree with you, you said you wanted to know why and I'll give you a reason. You likely won't agree but it's a reason. There are certain Christians who do not believe that gay marriage can not be celebrated in their church because marriage is a sacrament of the church. Ever since Napoleonic times, civil marriage was invented and I don't disagree with civil homosexual marriage. Furthermore,most Christians do not believe in the sacrament of marriage anymore. But when you talk of sacramental marriage, the marriage that is part of traditional Christianity, sacrimental marriage can only be between a man and a woman. We also believe that man and woman can never become divorced. But as far as hating you, I don't. I don't think you are living a lie, althouth I'm not sure what you mean by that. I believe that within my church and within my church only that marriage has to be between a man and a women. Perhaps you have seen in the news about church splits over this issue. But what the split is about is not whether or not homosexuals can be married, the issue is over that some courts and some homosexual couples have taken us to court for the right to be married in our church. I am absolutely certain you don't care what I believe as long as I leave you alone. And I have no wish to stop you or comment on how you live. But I do wish to stop interference in our church. I don't know if you understand the difference. But to us it's a religious sacrament and as a religious sacrament there is a lot more to it that two people living togethor. I don't wish to take away your ability to become married as you understand marriage and I have no wish to stop you from living the way you want to live. I could go into more what the religious significance of a Christian marriage within our church is. But I think I answered your question. If people want to stop you I think they are wrong. It does not mean I agree with your definition of marriage, but I do recognize your right to believe in what you believe marriage to be and to do what you want in peace and without interference from me. But obviously you feel that you have been discriminated against. I think it would help people understand if you say why. Although if people are saying that your should not live together as a couple, I do believe that is wrong. If you asked me though if it is what I would consider a sacrimental marriage, I would say no. But any couple who becomes divorced is no longer living in a sacramental marriage. You may think my religious views are wrong and I respect that. Actually in a strange way I know how you feel. Many Christians attack sacramental marriage and say it is old fashioned Christianity and shouldn't be allowed anymore and we have been thrown out of our churches over this issue. You'll see if a certain gentleman shows up, he feels very strongly about the issue. But no, I do not hate you. I think from the tone of your post you have experienced some kind of hateful experience and all I can say that even though I don't know what it was, you likely have a right to be upset.
Wesley,,, I think this is the first time on this YouchooseForum, that I agree 100% with you. This is good explanation you gave this lady. I do believe same way.
I agree! I want somone to just tell me Why?????
Hi Lauren and Wendy, I know that from the tone of the posts you have been targets and maybe you think I'll condemn you when you see I'm a born again Christian. I don't expect us to agree, but I really do think that if you have been the victim of discrimination either through actions and words, I am here to listen to you. I promise that I will not judge you. You have my word. Why is it important you share your story when we will never agree? The answer is that because our actions as Christians are often wrong and hurtful. I could share perhaps my story first if you like, but frankly while I have been the victim of discrimination, it has never, ever been at the hands of homosexuals. Most of the time it's from other Christians. If you tell your story I promise to read it without comment or judgement. Especially hurtful things people have done to you and I understand that in somecases may involves physical violence. Anyway you asked for someone to listen and I am willing to listen to you and I promise that I will not preach the Christian message to you. I did this on another board with an atheist and we still 100 percent disagree with each other. But this atheist told me how she was taunted by Christians and the things Christians said to her which I had to admit were pretty hurtful. And I told here my experience with two atheists who at one time set me up for much public ridicule. We both agreed we understood each other better. Anyway if you want to share what happened to you, you have my word that I will listen without judgement. Then if you wish I will share something that happened to me on this issue. It does not involve homosexuals ironically, but a Bishop of our Church who destroyed our church because we voted that we wanted to bring back the sacrament of marriage, which also means no divorce by the way. But if you decide that you do not wish to hear that, then I will not post it. But I encourage you to tell me your story. I promise to make no comment other than to read what happened to hurt you. Just let me know that is how you would like it to be Wes.
Hey Wesley, Mind if I ask you which group of born again Christian you belong to????. You don't have to answer if you don't want to.
And,, if you do not mind, I would like to hear that story about your bishop !
I belong to the Anglican Church, the Methodist branch that still exists within the church, within the church it is called the Low Church. We are virturally the same as Methodists in the United States. Anglicans are divided in three groups High, Traditional and Low. There are very few High Churches left, over the years they have left as the Anglican Church has abandoned Biblical principles of worship, particularly that the Bible is the supreme source of all doctrine. The low chuch also believes the Bible is the supreme source for all doctrine and most have left to form the Methodist Church. The "Tradional Church" no longer believes in the Bible as the supreme source for all doctrine nor do they believ in the Sacarments of the Church. Several Bishops in Canada have ordered all churches within their Dioceses that homosexual couples should be able to be married within church. Not all Bishops, only some. Our Bishop is one. Of the five Sacraments of the Christian Church, Marriage is the first Sacrament given to the Christian Church through various passages in the New Testament. It also forbids divorce. Another Sacrament is Communion. However, I do not wish to discuss religion here and I would ask that people not respond to this post here. This board belongs to Lauran and Wendy. I want to let Lauren and Wendy know that I am willing to listen to what happened to them. I wish to hear because their posts have angry tones and I feel there is more they wish to say. If they do tell what has happened to them I have promised not to make this a Christian board and I have promised to let them say what they wish to say without responding to it if that is what they wish. I am afraid that if they do post it will become a discussion about homosexuality, whereas Lauren and Wendy have the right to tell their story without fear of receiving an anvalanche of posts.
Thank you!!! That is very intresting about your church. And I do hope that Lauren and Wendy get's full satisfaction from this board. And they be able to tell their story without fear of being critisised. Obviosly that is not the reason why they post this forum, but to receive answers.