To all using GEarth and MTurk:

Please understand that if you are not searching for SF in the NEW IMAGERY

 then you are WASTING YOUR TIME and perhaps the time and resources of others.

Go to http://www.violentskies.c om/search-for-steve-fossett/index.html to download all the latest new imagery (since 9/3). Click on the Master KMZ file and the complete set of available new images will load into GEarth under Sidebar/Places/Temporary Places. The Master KMZ file contains a great deal of search info. When exiting GEarth, save the download into "My Places".

Hello, well try this one... looked out of place to me...

Lat 38.444644

Lon 119.476028

williamhager

Tom S. here:   I have some questions that I think deserve answers.

1. Who is it that reported seeing Steve's plane West of Powell Cyn heading East?

2. Is this person reliable?  It seems that you are disregarding its import.

3. Why can the satellite supply images new since 9/3 in that 60 mi. radius and nowhere else to the East?

4. Who determines what satellite images we get? I assume its not a question of money.

5. How was the determination made that Steve wasn't looking for sites and was merely on a joyride? Did he discuss his flight with anyone?

6. Is this search, including the support of the mturk effort , being run by the Lyon County Sheriff's Dept.?  If not, then who ?

I'm sure I have more but answers to these questions would keep me quiet for awhile. Thanks 

The Air Force SAR center in Florida reports that Fossett took off at 11:00 AM.  It is possible that he wasn't sited by anyone after takeoff and, since he did not file a flight plan, he could have headed north east toward Utah and the salt flats as he did indicate he was looking for dry lake beds.  Where else would someone want to go that is attempting a land speed record.  If one triangulates a course to Utah and notices the weather patterns in that area, it's possible that Fossett was off course trying to skirt around bad weather.  With tail winds and a 560 mile range in the Citabria along with 35 gallons of fuel, he might have reached as far east as northern Arizona.  A fireball, black smoke, topping out in a halo, was sighted on 3 September near Valle Airport on highway 64 near the intersection 180 heading toward the Grand Canyon, by a friend of mine during a major rain storm when he stopped to get out of the weather.  No aircraft was sighted but the explosion occurred close to Valle airport and museum.  It could be a stretch, but it's possible.  No one has reported this explosion.  It's worth a look at the coordinates.  The only explanation for not finding him with the technology being used and the money being spent, is that the search is in the wrong area.

The Air Force SAR center in Florida reports that Fossett took off at 11:00 AM.  It is possible that he wasn't sited by anyone after takeoff and, since he did not file a flight plan, he could have headed north east toward Utah and the salt flats as he did indicate he was looking for dry lake beds.  Where else would someone want to go that is attempting a land speed record.  If one triangulates a course to Utah and notices the weather patterns in that area, it's possible that Fossett was off course trying to skirt around bad weather.  With tail winds and a 560 mile range in the Citabria along with 35 gallons of fuel, he might have reached as far east as northern Arizona.  A fireball, black smoke, topping out in a halo, was sighted on 3 September near Valle Airport on highway 64 near the intersection 180 heading toward the Grand Canyon, by a friend of mine during a major rain storm when he stopped to get out of the weather.  No aircraft was sighted but the explosion occurred close to Valle airport and museum.  It could be a stretch, but it's possible.  No one has reported this explosion.  It's worth a look at the coordinates.  The only explanation for not finding him with the technology being used and the money being spent, is that the search is in the wrong area.

Please check out location:

 36° 52' 44.00" N , 117° 21'24.17" W

Thank you,

Deborah D.

 

O.K. all.  Lets, just for the moment assume Bridget's sighting was Steve and somehow he got to the Nellis area.  I have been puzzling over the USAF finding radar traces of Steve's flight almost three weeks after he goes missing.  You must consider the plane in question which is constructed with aluminum tubing and mostly sheathed in canvas.  The engine is the only hunk of metal on the plane that could give off a radar signature and that would be 2ft X3ft at the most. I really doubt that radar, at that altitude, could really see a kite- like plane like the Citabria from out of the ground clutter they would be receiving.  So how does this fit with Bridget's report?  Assume the Nellis Archery Club was out on the range and accidently hit Steve's plane, bringing it down. Consternation reigns.  That is until those cool heads in Washington D.C. who brought you 9/11, the Iraq War and Guantanamo enter the scene and decide the best way to wash their hands of the matter is to develop a plausible scenario and then find Steve themselves.  No need to dump him in Lake Mead, just find the crash site in the desert through the miracle of technology.  Anybody like my theory so far?

Tom S. 

Hey webmaster, I tried to pledge with my other e-mail address and was told someone is using it  -- what gives??  Would you check this out for me?  Tim DeMaison  tdemaison@yahoo.com  Please and thanks 

I'll submit one more to check out.

38°35'36.20"N   118°45'27.72"W

In light of the new information from the Air Force data: Here are a couple of new sites worth checking out.

(1)  38°31'06.16"N   118°45'41.45"W

(2)  38°31'45.61"N   118°44'58.89"W

Sorry for the repost.  There was an error in the website address and I tried to edit it twice but was denied access ergo the repost.  Thank you for your patience.

I'm not here to try to influence anyones belief in UFOs one way or the other.  But I noticed a comment in the newsletter that strongly indicated that they don't exist.  I am not trying to change this hunt for Steve Fossett in any way but I do ask all of you to check my website and then decide for yourself if there is an option to a plane crash and if there is yet hope that Mr. Fossett might still be alive and on his greatest adventure yet.  Please check out the website at   http://CosmoStarM an.tripod.com/    No sign ups or memberships needed.  I have nothing for sale.  The site consist of photos of the real thing at roof top level and on the ground and photos showing more than a hundred UFOs and personal information describing what has happened there.  I also want Mr. Fossett to come home to his family. 

I'm not here to try to influence anyones belief in UFOs one way or the other.  But I noticed a comment in the newsletter that strongly indicated that they don't exist.  I am not trying to change this hunt for Steve Fossett in any way but I do ask all of you to check my website and then decide for yourself if there is an option to a plane crash and if there is yet hope that Mr. Fossett might still be alive and on his greatest adventure yet.  Please check out the website at   http://CosmoStarMan.triop od.com/    No sign ups or memberships needed.  I have nothing for sale.  The site consist of photos of the real thing at roof top level and on the ground and photos showing more than a hundred UFOs and personal information describing what has happened there.  I also want Mr. Fossett to come home to his family. 

 submit that there is a good possibility and even probablility that Steve fossett will be found in a different area than the concentrated area proposed by the KML file from amazonturk being used, that kml file is too restrictive for a search area from my viewpoint,and although they have stated a confirmed report of a location around 10:30 am. I question that. just how accurate is that information....

I propose this new position via these 3 videos, I have tried to get a new kml file taken after sep 3rd for this area without sucess

 

here are videos of proposed search location

 

http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=S8LMPrCYVl4

http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=GJ4GKT4ldEk&mode=related&s earch=

http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=t4q8FmbdtvU

Seeing as I can't do anything constructive till i figure out Earth and how it works, I'll add some computing on the discussion between Therese and Mike yesterday.  Steve took off at 0845 from the Flying M and was spotted by someone (who?) West of Powell Canyon heading East at 10:30 AM.  He had been in the air 1:45 at that time. Everyone is assuming that Steve would have utilized his fuel carefully and to the maximum. I do no think that would have been the case, however, because he was unfamilar with the plane and would not trust estimates on fuel duration from folks on the ground at Flying M. In other words, he would not push it. On the other hand, there are more than a few places that Steve could have stopped and refueled if he was really unsure.  He could have taken the tour that I did today continuing East to Garfield Flat dry lake and then on to Kiddy Flat dry Lake then turning South and checking the 2 drylakes East of Blair Junction and finally checking the dry lake in Huntoon Valley on his way home. That's about 130 miles, taking about one hour and would have found him landing at Flying M at about 11:30 with one hour and 15 minutes fuel remaining. If he spent some time over these dry lakes, you would subtract that from the 1:15 of fuel. It doesn't make sense that he ran out of fuel, cuz he's a good pilot and could have put that plane in almost everywhere safely. He would then have had a strong battery to start broadcasting his whereabouts to the searchers. That didn't happen. Draw your own conclusions.

Tom S. 

Now I know what the red areas are about. A dust storm.  A dandy!  Under very restricted visability I saw 2 sites worth checking out.  39 6 14 41   119 4 16 47.  A white shape that could have been a plane.

39 6 11 21   119 4 48 46W  Before things went totally gray I saw a bright flashing light. it went off and on for about a minute and then stopped.  Worth a look in the clear.

Tom S.