Help Find Steve Fossett

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Issue:STEVE FOSSETT HAS BEEN FOUND. THANK YOU EVERYONE!YOUCHOOSE.NET OFFERS A $10,000 REWARD TO THE FIRST YOUCHOOSE MEMBER WHO PROVIDES INFORMATION LEADING TO THE RESCUE OF STEVE FOSSETT.  TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!  PLEASE READ ON: On Monday, September 3, 2007, Steve Fossett, the first person to fly a plane solo around the world without refueling and the first person to fly around the world in a balloon went missing in Nevada. An airplane he was flying failed to return. No one has any idea where he is.Through the generous efforts of individuals at several organizations, detailed satellite imagery has been made available for his last known whereabouts.Belief:I believe that if we each take a little time looking at the satellite images and marking those that may have signs of Fossett in them, we could find him or determine what happened to him.

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According to this news

According to this news report the search HQ has been moved.  There is a new contact email address and phone numbers included on this page:http://www.ne vadaappeal.com/article/20070920/NEWS/109 200075

To all searchers: I know of

To all searchers: I know of four MTurk KML files (overlays) which define five new image areas in GEarth:http://s3.amazon aws.com/fossett/geoeye-color.kml< /strong>h ttp://s3.amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG-BW/Reg ionated_DG_2/index.kml< a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG /DG/index.kml">http://s3.ama zonaws.com/Fossett-DG/DG/index.kml < /strong> http://s 3.amazonaws.com/Fossett-GE-3/Geo_Eye_3/i ndex.kml Are there any other KML files that have been published by MTurk?If you are not searching in a new image area, you are wasting your time. Fossetts plane cannot appear in the old (standard GEarth) images.

"Blue/White wing shape"

"Blue/White wing shape" lat=38.4586517031, lon=-119.793941236This looks like an aircraft of about the right size. Near the top of the clearing to its left is what appears to be a relatively large fire. This was found in a hit received from MTurk.  

¿Is this fossett Plane? In

¿Is this fossett Plane?In the old satellite image dont apeared: look38 º  52´ 30.81" N119º 21´ 48.56" wGoogle Earth38  52 30.81-119  21 48.56 Google Maps (Old image)http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38 .875409,-119.36373&z=17&t=h& hl=en 

That is certainly a plane

That is certainly a plane but it is airborne.  If you look behind the plane a short way you can see a faint blue shadow.  That is the shadow that the plane makes from the air and the satellite picture captures it.  Must be a search plane looking for Fossett.

There is an object in

There is an object in Fremont lake that has some angular features.  If it is an aircraft the wings are folded.  Coordinates:   38 15 10.53N ,  119 32 55.32W

It looks like a rock

It looks like a rock formation to me.  It is on the old image also. 

Did Fossett's plane have a

Did Fossett's plane have a 32 foot wingspan?  check out 38°16'48.42"N 119°32'9.53"W You can easily measure a persons character by observing how they treat someone who can do nothing for them.

I found the plane shape you

I found the plane shape you are refering to.  I also found it on the old/pre-Fossett layer so it can't be him.  On the older image it doesn't look as much like a plane as it does on the newer image, almost like a big log.  Good work though.

All I got on this one is a

All I got on this one is a lake and deep water,no wingspan.  Possibly in an early Fossett image (layer).

I couldn't get the image

I couldn't get the image tool to work.  I put the file here.  I dont see this shape on the pre Fossett photos but there is a tree down.  This is probably an optical illusion. http://groups .msn.com/PerneseFriends/picturesloadedby members.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoI D=2628You can easily measure a persons character by observing how they treat someone who can do nothing for them.

I know I am a novice but I

I know I am a novice but I am really trying and I am really working hard to help so please tolerate me a little as I fumble my way through this.This looks like a wreckage but I don't know how to toggle between the old map and the new so I only see this on the new. The coordinates are as follows;38.384171,-119.77638238°24'2.79 "N119°47'15.96"WThank youLynnette

Thank you all so much for

Thank you all so much for the information. What I found above does not appear on the old map but the foliage is denser so it may have been hidden. I looked really closely but could not find any signs of any of it through the openings between trees on the old map.

If you are searching within

If you are searching within the new images areas, you can use the slideswitch at the bottom of "Sidebar/Places" to vary the opacity of the new image, effectively switching between old and new. In "Places", select the KML file (new image area) of interest; then the slideswitch works for that selected KML overlay. Or you can simply click the related checkmark on and off. The new image areas can be seen by backing out to a high eye altitude."

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

On the left side under

On the left side under Places you will see something that says GeoEye or GE-.....  Click the box on one of those and it take the new image away and show the old image.  There has been a shift from the old to new so back out and look for terrain markings when confirming an object.

Thank you Scott.

Thank you Scott.

How far do we need to back

How far do we need to back out when shifting from New to Old?   I am trying to get this to work so I don't waste anyone'se time with images that were there prior to SF going missing.  

coordinates that

coordinates that work38.316879,-119.553909 You can easily measure a persons character by observing how they treat someone who can do nothing for them.

Ok if we are looking at the

Ok if we are looking at the same cords... I do not see a crash trail or burn area.  there does appear to be "buildings" although no roads leading to them.  the objects are in the layer below, and I don't know if it was generated for the early Fossett images.  Keep up the good work.

I assumed buildings but the

I assumed buildings but the images are too fuzzy.  I also looked for roads or a way to get the buildings there and found none.  Doesn't look like a plane though. You can easily measure a persons character by observing how they treat someone who can do nothing for them.

Check this out. 

Check this out.  39"19'05.63N 119"33'10.00W   Something there but I can't tell what it is.Kool You can easily measure a persons character by observing how they treat someone who can do nothing for them.

If I am looking at the

If I am looking at the correct cords, this is probably pre-Fossett.  The tanish images without any overlays are old.

hey  has anyone looked in

hey  has anyone looked in the water,there are a cuple of lake near the airstrip????good luck

This is the other siting

This is the other siting I mentioned in the comment below.  This site looks more like a damaged plane than a complete one. I suspect this one is already known as it is more in the open and easier to see.http:// www.flickr.com/photos/13809611@N05/sets/ 72157602086116861/Coordinates: 38°43'29.07"N 118°51'43.60"WIn the previous message I meant to write "Flying M Ranch" not Flying D ranch but couldn't correct it.

CREDIBLE SITING.  I have

CREDIBLE SITING.  I have uploaded 5 Google Earth screenshots to Flickr.  One gives an overview of the site in relation to the Flying D Ranch. The others are different angles showing the aircraft intact on a slope with maybe a wing or the tail resting on a tree. The Amazon Turk KML overlay file has been used. Coordinates: 38°43'02.10"N 118°49'23.99"WThe aircraft is the white mark just below the yellow pin.  The square box on the images is a note-box.http:// www.flickr.com/photos/13809611@N05/sets/ 72157602073750202/Use the "See Larger Sizes" link in the right menu to get the full-size view.  I have another set of a different site which is close by, but is more likely to be a known site since it is more in the open.  I will post that set of images within the next couple of hours just in case ...

I was flipping back and

I was flipping back and forth and this plane wasn't there in the old pics, but it is now. I hope they check it out and fast.

I couldn't see it on the old

I couldn't see it on the old pics either Jason.  I think someone related to the search is checking this forum so hopefully they will take a look at this.

Here's the correct link

Here's the correct link info,http://s3 .amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG-BW/Regionated_ DG_2/index.kmlThis link automatically opens up my Google Earth softwareIn my previous comment I omitted the dot after the number 3

Located what looks like a

Located what looks like a small plane resting at an angle which I viewed on the linkhttp://s3a mazonaws.com/Fossett-DG-BW/Regionated_DG _2/index.kmlco-ordinates are 38 degrees 00'40.46N / 118 degrees 35'06.69WAlso if you look carefully just a short distance NNW of the object I see what looks like a large letter "P" and next to it what maybe the bottom portion of the letter "L". Please investigate and forward to the search team if it's a possibility. Thanks

If I have your coordinates

If I have your coordinates correct the image is in the pre-Fossett area.

NOW TAKE A LOOK A

NOW TAKE A LOOK A THIS: 38°29'54.04"N 119°24'29.41"W

Thanks, I will try the

Thanks, I will try the terrain function to determine flatness.The four KML links I know of are (9/19/07):http://s3.amazonaws.com/ fossett/geoeye-color.kmlhttp://s3 .amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG-BW/Regionated_ DG_2/index.kmlhttp://s3.amazonaws.c om/Fossett-DG/DG/index.kml http://s3.amazon aws.com/Fossett-GE-3/Geo_Eye_3/index.kml .Are there any others?The last KML link defines two image areas.It is a waste of time to search outside of MTurk KML areas; older images will not show Fossetts plane.

also after you turn terrain

also after you turn terrain on , the horizontal bar in the top right of your screen , (move mouse up there if you dont see it ) theres a slider to tilt the image on a planar angle .  Pretty cool software really , also control alt a turns it into a flight sim for all you pilots tho its a little bugyy .. works with my xbox 360 controller tho. Also when in normal mode Im able to scan around the maps rather quickly using the 360 controller , left and right trigger rotates the image, y button and A button zoom in and out etc .. some of these options you have to turn on in options of GE . Hey google, how about kicking us a copy of google earth plus????  I'd like to check out the gps features on it.

 38°35'42.08"N

 38°35'42.08"N 118°51'41.96"Wlooks like a plane...

 38°32'28.52"N

 38°32'28.52"N 118°50'27.04"Wbright stuff on the ground wasn't there at the old one - opinions?

I assume you are refering to

I assume you are refering to the small white retangle.  I was able to find it on the old images.  It was hard to find because the old image shifted over so I had to search a little.  It also seems too small to be a plane, it's only about 10 or 12 feet across.

Somewhere I read that SF

Somewhere I read that SF departed from the Flying M Ranch to the SouthWest. Does anybody know if this is true???Also his race car would need many miles of smooth flatland.  How to determine where the best flatlands are?SF would have researched this info and planned his route accordingly.  With good data, it is  possible to intelligently guess his route of flight and search more efficiently.Are geographic maps good enough to determine "flatness"?

turn terrain back on and it

turn terrain back on and it does a pretty good job to show flatness and height in mountains if thats what you are looking for. hope it helps.

K. James B - Well now its

K. James B - Well now its being reported he wasn't going to find a place to break his land speed record but just a pleasure flight and would return in 3 hours .. thruth is none of us know , he could be in area 51 or the bottom of a lake , we just have to try best we can I guess. :( but unless a native tribe with no communication is nursing him back to health chances are its been wayy too many days for survival.. though we did have an oregonian that was 72 last 2 weeks lately.

yes it seems there is a lot

yes it seems there is a lot of hearsayand speculation but not any real solid intel at all, if no one who is responsible for this search is not going to use the information i provided on youtube to find this man, then whats needed here is a few new KML files of new areas and in particular the area north and NNE and NE  and maybe east as well of "pyramid lake". how do we get those kml files? the one KML file being used by amazon turk  is way too restrictive and based on questionable intelligence for an area to search as they truthfully really dont know where to search. I think they should check out my information that i provided if it doesnt workout so be it, but it shouldnt be disregarded because of personal beliefs about things is my view and thats why ithasnt been acted upon it seems

Why hasn't anyone considered

Why hasn't anyone considered that he may have headed east? Can you get those sites updated? I am sure that there had been a point to point of fuel consumption done ...why not look in all directions?

Now there are five "new

Now there are five "new image" overlays, from four KML links.

just curious what the &^&^

just curious what the &^&^ is this? 40°13'34.01"N  120°57'7.40"W can email me godsdice89 at gmail dot com

seems to start at 

seems to start at  40°14'15.59"N 120°57'2.58"W  and go directly south

Blurry flare effect while

Blurry flare effect while photograhping a fast flying airplane.

Jurgen - thanks for the

Jurgen - thanks for the reply . Thought it was kinda neat :)

  To DAnne H. I posted the

 To DAnne H.I posted the following on 9/17 Monday: "To all GoogleEarth searchers:The standard GEarth images are too old to show Steve Fossetts airplane; these images were taken by satellite long before Sep 3 2007.  To search for Fossetts airplane, you have to download NEW IMAGES from MTurk (http: //www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?groupId=9T SZK4G35XEZJZG21T60)   by clicking on their KML file (http://s3.amazonaws.c om/Fossett-DG/DG/index.kml) .  This loads automatically at "Sidebar/Places/Temporary Places" in your GEarth.  If you dont search in the new image area, you are wasting your time.  PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS. Also, if you are searching within the new images area, you can use the slideswitch at the bottom of "Sidebar/Places" to vary the opacity of the new image, effectively switching between old and new. If the object of interest appears in both old and new, it cannot be Fossetts airplane, (unless the old images were shot after Sep 3, 2007.)  The new image area can be seen by backing out to a high eye altitude."Sometimes it is necessary to cycle the checkmarks in "Places" on and off to get the slideswitch to work.Also you can uncheck the boxes in "Places" that correspond to the KML overlays (new images) and the old images are displayed.The three KML files that I know of are  http://s3.amazonaws.com/ fossett/geoeye-color.kml and  http://s3 .amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG-BW/Regionated_ DG_2/index.kml, along with current one.  It is possible to display all three KML files simultaneously, with some interesting effects where there is overlap.

  Hi I am using the KML

 HiI am using the KML file when searching...  

Looks like something

Looks like something plane-shaped & white in a tree at 38°41'53.00"N 119°09'01.40"W.  Not in the old images.

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