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 Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin
546 Votes - Start Date:
9-9-2008 - Last Vote:
10-20-2009
Description:It's that time again folks... the American Presidential race is on! Now that the official tickets are stamped and the signs and shirts are printed, Americans will be watching the campaign trails and hearing what each candidate promises to do if elected into office. The Democrats have nominated Barack Obama and Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. To see where they stand on the issues, head over to their official website: http://www.barackobama.com/. Sen. John McCain chose Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate and the Republicans nominated them for the 2008 ticket. You can see where they stand by visiting their website here: http://www.johnmccain.com/ YouChoose wants to know what you think. Who do you think will make the best president? Who will make the change that America so desperately needs? After you vote, be sure to join in on the discussion. And, please, keep it clean. We all know how heated politics can become.
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Kudos to you, too, Brenda! Let's all stand in prayer daily for President-Elect Obama for guidance and leadership that will reflect God when making decisions! When a country's leaders put God first, everything else will fall into place for that country! God bless America always! :)
Really, Levetta, did you happen to watch the crowd in Chicago last night? I saw tens of thousands of faces who I'm assuming looked a lot like you. I know they looked a lot like me. We did not elect Obama because of the color of his skin. We elected him President because he is by far the better choice to lead our country back from the brink.
Levetta - It saddens me that you believe the only reason Obama won was because of the color of his skin, not because he was the better candidate. What a tragedy that people would believe that a black person can't be elected on his merits, only because he is black. While he did not carry a higher percentage of the white vote than McCain, he carried more of the white vote than Kerry or Gore (who are white). Similarly, Obama carried more people with college degrees, and more with post-doctoral degrees, and he also carried more people in the $200,000.00 or more income brackets than McCain (the very group Obama will hurt on taxes!). Interesting that those populations are most likely a higher percentage of white people. Moreover, during the primaries, Clinton and Obama were split with the black vote. Black people were not flocking as a majority to Obama just because he is black, he had to work for those votes. And McCain lost the Latinos during the primaries when he renounced some of the moderate views on immigration popular among many Latinos. Obama didn't get their vote because he is black, he got their vote because he isn't John McCain.
I for one believe that he won last night not because he is black, but because he ran the better campaign, and he DESERVED to win. What a great way to keep racism alive....He only won because of the color of his skin. Doesn't that argument sound really familiar? Please think about that.
Abraham Lincoln (our GREATEST president, and a REPUBLICAN) said: "When one group in this country grows, everyone grows."
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Jodi C. I am far from a racist. I come from a family of many biracial members. My point was I watched election coverage and saw with my own eyes people saying the reason they voted for him was because he was black. I also said not everyone of his supporters voted that way just a segment of his supporters. It saddens me that my candidate was defeated in part because of racism. Would you think it racist if someone said they voted for McCain because he is white? Racism goes both ways! I have seen it, heard it, and lived it. I also find it ironic that the very group that has been fighting for civil rights would vote 7 out of 10 to oppress a minority group fighting for their civil rights.
I just hope we can come together as a country and make it a better place for ALL who live here.
Jodi C. I am by far racist my family is made up of biracial members. I watched the election coverage and heard with my own ears people saying they voted for him because he was black. That is not what Martin Luther King stood for. That was the point I was trying to make. I am disallusioned that there are still people out there that think that way. If you ever read in any of my posts where I stated I would not vote for him because he is half African American I would love to be called out on it. I am hurt that racism played a part in John McCain's defeat. Racism goes both ways. I also said Not everyone who voted for him voted for that reason. I also find it ironic that the very same people who have fought so hard for their civil rights would vote 7 out of 10 to oppress another minorities civil rights.
She didn't say the only reason was the color of his skin. But I do have to agree that some voted for that reason just as some voted for him because they think they will be open to better jobs. If you are looked over for a job it is not because of your race but because someone happens to be better qualified. Alot voted for his beliefs and his promises of a better tomorrow. Some voted for him because they didn't want another "Bush". So there are a variety of reasons not all good. I voted for McCain because I believed for me and my family he was what we needed. Some didn't vote for him because of his age,some didn't vote for him because he is white and some didn't vote for him because of Palin. So there are so many wrong reasons why we didn't vote for some of the candidates and yet so many good reasons why we voted the way we did. Racism is going to continue no matter who is the man or woman we vote into the office. Racism is a taught behavior. I wasn't taught to hate because of the race of a person. I dislike alot of people of all races but I hate noone. When all races not just the white race which seems to catch all the flack stop teaching hate and passing it down generation after generation and living in the past then and only then will the hate stop. Slavery has been gone for years but yet we still keep the hate in our hearts and the memory of it year after year. Black Americans are as equal as any other American in the USA. They have every if not more oppurtunities than anyone else to make a better life for themselves. But with that comes alot of work and going to achieve it. Nothing is given to anyone. And most black americans think that because you are white you have money. I know this from personal experience. I have two mixed children and have been with their father for 13 years and his family think I can do everything and can afford everything. I have to work for my money just like everyone else. My parents are not rich like most americans they live paycheck to paycheck.And if anything goes wrong such as getting arrested for drug possesion,warrants for non-child support guess what the first words out of their mouths are "the white man is out to get me" no you got yourself. It is time we as americans to accept what we make out of our lives. We can achieve anything that we want with a little hard work. Nothing is given to anyone.
Nicole - I was commenting on the notion that it was an insult to MLK's dreams for this nation. Martin Luther King wanted equality - suggesting this is an insult to that, implies that equality has not been achieved, or was disingenuously achieved. While I believe that many people were excited to cast their vote for a black man, I do not believe that people cast their vote for him BECAUSE he is a black man. Black, white, red, or yellow...I do not think anybody would have voted for him just because he is black, if he were not also an excellent choice for president. That was the part of her argument I was contesting.
yes it has been achieved. And yes there was some that did for this reason. But stay blinded to the truth but my eyes are wide open. Yes some felt he was the better candidate while others had a variety of reasons whether good or bad. So with that being said I am done. And I am basing this on the experiences I have been through and listen to being part of a bi-racial family. If you never are around it you just don't know. I live this everyday.
I find your argument confusing and lacking focus. However, one thing seems clear - You should find solace in the fact that the argument by your family members who like to say things like "the white man is out to get me" has largely been deflated. Because now that we have a black president, they can achieve anything, and it can only because of themselves when they do not. They can no longer tell you that it's because of their blackness.
My point is so that maybe you will understand is. Just because a mixed man has now become president doesn't mean a change for the black americans. Change has been there. Everyone can do whatever they want as long as they work for it. Just because a mixed man is now going to be leading the country doesn't mean that all of a sudden the people who haven't been able to get a good job now will. If you wasn't qualified before you still are not qualified now. And the mind set of the white man is not going to change either until history is put away. Perhaps you are naive but I am not. It should not have taken Obama to become president for people to think they couldn't have achieved whatever they wanted. And in your comment you said the exact thing I was saying except yes there were people who voted for him because of his color. I know at least 25 people who did. So like I said there was a variety of reasons whether good or bad they voted on how they did. Also know a whole family that voted for him just because they didn't like McCain. So just keep your head in the sand. There are plenty of people on my husbands side who are successful because they worked hard at it. And the ones who are not because they have taken the easy road and expected everything to come to them hate on them because of their success. All of a sudden they are Uncle Tom's. You may live in a fantasy world but I have lived in the real world for a long time. Before I was in an interracial relationship I never noticed anything different. But once I started I could see a difference. But unless you have lived it you will not understand what I am saying. They have hate amongst themselves if one is doing better than the other. I am happy for anyone who can do or live better than myself. While others can not.
I didn't say it changed their "reality", I said it deflated their argument - their argument that supports their belief about their reality (that it's their blackness causing them to be unsuccessful). I too believe their reality has always been that they could do anything if they set their minds to it.
The original discussion was about Obama winning the election because of the color of his skin. I am sure there are plenty of people who voted for McCain because he is white. But I think the assumption that Obama won mainly because of his color, is a gross exaggeration and is not reflected in the facts of the election. The TOTAL minority vote for 2008 is only 26%. Even if Obama had gotten ALL of that vote (which he did not), he could not have won on minority vote alone (not even come close). If you believe that most of the white people who voted for him did so BECAUSE he is black, and not because he is the best for the job, that is a HUGE leap and not the least bit believable.
As for your other argument....I know PLENTY of white power struggles that include anger and resentment for other family members' success (I have it in my own family). That is not a BLACK thing. Wallow in and perpetuate your prejudices, it's your choice. It sounds like you have an awful lot of hate within yourself as well. It's highly unfortunate that you would point it out in your family members, and not see it inside yourself too.
Because it is not there. I am the voice of reason. I don't hate anyone. I dislike alot. And the reason I can point it out and not see it in myself is because I dislike the fact on all races that it is easier to have a scapegoat for why you are not succeeding in life. When I fail it only makes me stronger. Does that mean I don't struggle and question why. No. Do I blame others. NO. I go with whatever life throws at me and make the best of it. And why my parents. My parents have struggled alot in their life but they always made it. I live by that and teach my children the same. It just upsets me that so many don't have the same values and try to take the easy way out or make others feel less of themselves just for their own self gratification.
But if you're so happy with how you handle your life, and what you teach your daughter, why does it bother you so much how others handle their lives? Why do you care if other people choose to blame others, so long as you are happy with how you live?
It would never be my intention to defend people who blame others, but neither do I blame them for their misdirected reality. I have no need to boost my own ego by pointing my finger at people because of who they blame for the failures of their own lives. Just because it's their belief, doesn't mean it has anything to do with my life. You're going to waste of a whole lot of valuable energy in your life being upset that others' don't have the same values as you. Take a breather and let others be themselves, as faulted as you may believe them to be.
True,True.
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God help us all! And if he stands for all of us then the ones living off the government will now get a job? Don't think so. He didn't win for the good of the USA. He won for the good of the hand me this and hand me that. I hope I am wrong. I am still an American with moral values and I am not able to trust this man.
Yea Yea Yea Be careful what you wish for Obama will chand=ge our country to muc and probally for the worst so NO CHANGE vote Mccain
Dont vote B.O {brack obama} vote Mccain
ps i am not rasist I just dont have a good vive a bout him
SOrry that your tean lost but usa won thank you for your support
Sorry mate the worlds has just entered the darkest hour with no rudder good luck you are going to need it
Marlene, I'm also a white, middle-class and middle-aged female who believes in a better future for us all with Obama as our next president. It's starting to look like the dream of a lot of us just may become a reality.
Hope its not a nightmare
OBAMMMAAA ! OBAMMMAA ! he looks to like a fresh hip new president type for the white house :)
No matter who wins I have to admitt I couldn't be more prouder of Senator Obama if he was my own son! I am a white middle class female who is so tired of the Bush and McBush ideas. I believe Senator Obama will do us good!
´cause i hate bush, mccain is his doll.
Look at the bright side everyone no matter who wins Bush is going away YEAH
AMEN TO THAT!!!
Jodi C, I am in full agreement with your reasons for choosing Barack Obama. I will add one more. I voted for Barack Obama for President because he gives me and millions of others hope for the future of our country. Hope for the first time in many, many years.
I attended a rally in Cleveland on Sunday where Obama spoke to close to 90,000 people. I have never seen so many people of all shapes, ages, colors and sizes gathered in one place. There were small children, babies, elderly people, pregnant women, disabled veterans, etc. The huge crowd was well-mannered and orderly. People stood in line for hours waiting for their chance to hear Obama. Many people didn't get in the gates but stood shoulder-to-shoulder for hours waiting to hear him speak. Once he began speaking, you could hear a pin drop. Not even the tired, hungry children cried. Nobody ever booed or jeered the other candidate as I've heard at so many of the McCain and Palin rallies that were televised. Everyone used all their energy towards positive support of their candidate.
In my entire life, I've never experienced anything like this hope and enthusiasm except maybe when JFK ran for President in the sixties. I was in elementary school at the time so was too young to get involved.
In two days of knocking on doors over the past several days, I met many people who had never considered voting for a Democrat for President but who voted for Obama in this election. Yesterday I met a white woman in her eighties, living in rural Ohio, who said she was a life-long Republican who had never voted for a Democrat-until now. She said, "This may be the last election I ever vote in because I may be dead the next time around but this time I cast my vote for Obama."
This and so many other personal encounters over the past week give me great hope for this election and especially for the future of our United States. If one man can unite and mobilize so many citizens to a common cause for change and goodness, then I have no doubt the future of our country will be in very capable hands if Obama is elected our next President.
I admit I am jealous that you were able to attend a rally. I bet it was one of the most memorable times for you!! HOPE has guided a lot of us. We want a better world for our children and grandchildren. I have hope and Obama actually gives us that.
Marlene, yes, it was a most memorable time for me. I will never forget the sense of unity and hopefulness that flowed through that huge crowd and energized us all.
WOW, Ann S., that post brought tears to my eyes!!!! WOW!!! THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT INSPIRING AND VERY HOPEFUL POSTING!!!!