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Persian gulfForum Discussion for Persian gulf Submitted by reemaz s. on Wed, 04/30/2008 - 01:56
before i post my comment the comment is "ARABIAN GULF" BECAUSE “””The controversy over the name of the Arabian Gulf / Persian Gulf””” The Arabian Gulf (Arabic:الخليج العربي) is the accredited name in the Arabian countries and some other countries as well, but the accredited name in Turkey and the Ottoman Empire documents was Basra Körfezi, means "Gulf of Basra". This place is the water which lies to the east of the Arabian Peninsula and to the west of Iran, it known by different names throughout the history. The total length of the Gulf coast about 3300 Kilo Meter, the share of Iran has about one third ONLY, but the rest of the gulf owned by Arab Countries. The Arabs lived in the both sides of the gulf, in the western section we find (Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq), but in the eastern side of the gulf we find Ahvaz and Linga that actually called Arabestan Region by Iranian themselves, because the people who lives there are Arabs, Arabstan Region has been colonized by Iran long time ago, people of that region admitted that too, the same thing goes TODAY with the three Island (Greater Tunb, Lesser Tunb, and Abu Musa) of United Arab Emirates today. (The Arabian Gulf) ”””stories of some names””” * The oldest known name is the name "Sea of God" until the third millennium BC, then it became the "Sea of great sunrise" until the second millennium BC, then it called "Sea of Alkeldan" in the first millennium BC. After tha, it became the "South Sea" during the second half of the first millennium BC. * The Assyrians, Babylon's and Akkadian (Arabic:أكاد, French:Empire d'Akkad) called it "South Sea" or (lower sea), and it's opposite the upper sea what it called today The Mediterranean Sea. It also called "sea Mur" (Arabic:البحر المر) by the Assyrian, means ("bitter sea"). * The Persian called it "Persian Sea". It was known in the first place by the Persian King Darius (486-831 BC) in his speech "on the sea which links between Egypt and Persia". Also it seems that Alexander the Great was the first for such designation fired after journey, of his "prince of sea" Niarchos in 326 BC. He came back from India then when he was by the coast to the Arabia, he did not know the Arab side of the Gulf, and that what made the Alexander to call it by that name "Persian Gulf", and remained via inheritance, after that this name leaked through Greece to Western countries and it was used by some of the Arabs as well because of the power of Persia. * The Romans called it the "Arabian Gulf" and one of those who launched name is Pliny the Younger in the first century AD, Pliny said Khorramshahr is a town located in the far side of the Arabian Gulf, where the start of the most prominent Arabia, which is built on an artificial high and The Tigris River (Arabic:نهر دجلة) on the right side as the Euphrates River (Arabic:نهر الفرات) to the left. The area on which it is based on - has three miles of length, lies between those two rivers. it's made by the at the Great Alexander, in order to call it Alexandria, However, the flooding of the rivers destroy it. Antioukhos rebuilt it again and call it by his name, and Since it demolished for the second time, Pasines rebuilt it for the third time, also he built dams, to respond the water and called it by his name, The length of this dams was three miles and breadth was slightly lower, at the first it was more than one mile far of the bank, also it has its own port over there. * The Arabs called it "Gulf of Basra" or "Gulf of Oman", "Gulf of Bahrain" or "Gulf of Qatif" because these three Arabian cities was controlling the body water plus using and arranging the movement of the ships, also the name of "Sea of Basra" refers to the Islamic conquest in the era of Omar bin al-Khattab. We find that the first Grammarians such as "Alkhlil Ben Ahmed Alfarahidy" (Arabic: الخليل بن أحمد الفراهيدي) used it, and the Geographers such as Yaqut al-Hamawi (Arabic:ياقوت الحموي) and Al-Dhahabi(Arabic: الذهبي), also some historians such as "Khalifa bin Khayyat" and religious scholars such as Ibn Taymiyya. Although the name "Sea of Persia" commonplace in the Islamic era, especially among Muslim Persians and Some of those Persians even use both names in the same page, some Arabs called it "Iraq Gulf" during the "Abbasid succession", but Dr. Emad Hafiz said that (The name of the Arabian Gulf has been known before the Islam and continued after the Islam to the population of the Arabian peninsula and its environs). * The Turkish called it "Gulf of Basra" during the Ottoman Empire that covered most of Arabian countries at that time, even today in Turkey it’s called "Gulf of Basra". “””The dispute over name””” * The French writer (J.J. Berrebi) “Jean-Jacques Berrebi” said it’s Arabian Gulf, in the book he wrote it about the events of the region and the strategic importance, says: «the section that passes by Karun River from Ahvaz Region with the bottom section of Mesopotamia the geographic and economic unit. * The Historian Carsten Niebuhr from Denmark, which came to the Arabian Peninsula in 1762, says: «I can’t pass by this region and keep silent similar to others, about the most important colonies, which despite being organized outside the boundaries of the Arabian Peninsula, in fact it’s closest to it (Arabian peninsula), I mean the Arab residents of the southern coast of Persia, they are often allied with the Senate neighboring countries, also the different circumstances to indicate that the Arab tribes settled in the Gulf before the Islamic conquests, moreover it has always maintained its independence, It is ridiculous that portray Geographers a part of the Arabian lands under the control of Persian Kings, while those kings were never able to be the masters of the sea coast in their own country, Persians was reluctant to keep this coast belong to the Arabs». * The French Jean-Pierre a professor of National Institute for Eastern Languages and Civilizations also wrote in Paris in January 1990 a study in the French Magazine Lomand about the gulf and a nomination of the Arabian Gulf name, then the Iranian embassy protest, and they wrote stuff against him, also Pierre response to them but he was supported by scientific arguments, also he show a maps for Oconnor لوكانور that comes from the end of the 16th century that using the Latin name “Sein Arabique” means (Arabian Gulf), he said : "I have found more than a map and Document at the National Library in Paris proves conclusively the name of the Arabian Gulf, all opposed the viewpoint of Iran." ”””Viewpoint of Iran””” ”””Viewpoint of Arabs””” ”””Arab'estan””” (Arabic:عربستان), (Persian:عربستان) ”””Meaning of Arab'estan””” ”””Name Explanation””” Submitted by ali s. on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 06:45
man be name galee khaleeg arabee eteraz daram Submitted by benyamin m. on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 20:12
When there was no arab, persians were ruling the world. now that arabs have decided to put their camels away and they are giong to consider that whether women have the right for voting, they want to name PERSIAN GULF, arabian. That is never going to happen. Submitted by ali h. on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 12:41
untill the world is the persian golf is persian golf. Submitted by bahador a. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:55
hello . Submitted by zakieh a. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 21:23
hello i am an iranian girl.i couldnt understand which group desided to change our beautifull persian gulf name,its for us how a baby belongs to his mum.please stop their selfish idea Submitted by bahador a. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:57
hello Submitted by babak a. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:18
persian gulf is a historical name from 2500 years ago. when google write a wrong name, everybody knows the information of your site is not right. UN believe (from the most historical documents)the name of this gulf is only persian gulf & you can not change this name .PLEASE change your mistake. Submitted by HELALEH N. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:09
HI IM HELALEH .I AM SORRY FOR PERSIAN GULF AND I AM VERY ANGRY.I HAVE COMPLAINT FOR THIS NAME .PERSIAN GULF IS PERSIAN GULF ALLWAYS Submitted by mary l. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:54
persian gulf is allways persian gulf and no one cant chang it becaus it is abig fact Submitted by Majid G. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 16:32
IN THE NAME OF PERSIAN GOLF GOD hey you ! Are you educated ? yes ? so why are you use Arabia golf instead of PERSIAN GOLF ! you know google is going to be a worthless among 72 milion peaple of Iran or every historian .PERSIAN GOLF=HISTORY . when there weren't any arabiab . know you say ARAbian golf ??!??!!? I'm sory for you ! Submitted by saman b. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 15:04
Persian gulf is a 2500 years old name. no one on the earth can change it to another thing. be ware. Submitted by hossein s. on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 14:28
I realy don't know how you could do this. I am an Iranian teanager and I thought you are diffrent but now I see there is no diffrance between you and our enemies.I want you to write the real name of Persian gulf befor puting yourself in dangour. Loading People... |