In 2012 Sarah Palin has already announced her plans to run again, only this time as President. The woman does not have the qualifications to be President, Vice President... heck, I wouldn't even select her for a lower cabinet post! Now, if she wants to be Miss Almost Vice President, wear a sash, and pose for media photos (all things she seems to be qualified for) then I'm all for it!
Palin is all AMERICAN .SAHEis not afraid to the toughest of them she can do that and remain a lady at the same time.I say Palin for press....212 yesSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Sarah Palin is no dummy, contrary to what most democrats think. She has more political experience than Obama. Her southwestern twang is much more direct than Obama who always speaks in generalities--"like we are considering" or "what we think is appropriate". Never a real answer!
Sarah p. is one of the strongest ladies that has come a long in a long time. She stood up to the following all over them selves press for then Sen Obama.The press and the liberals who cowards that they are attacked both Sarah's young daughter and new born baby. Sp. has more experience then now Press elect Obama and she hangs with a better class of people . No America haters or bombers. Guess thats what it takes to be press,and select a VIP.
Kaye O, it's not a Southwestern twang, it's from Idaho where she was originally from, mixed in with the Midwest, where her parents were from. Either way, it's incredibly annoying and shrill and thank god I don't have to listen to THAT voice for the next 8 years. And give me a break...she doesn't have as much experience as Obama. We've heard that one before and it didn't work out for ya, now did it? You betcha!
Man, I just found this forum and youchoose a week or so ago..I would have LOVED to post about Sarah Palin and her total incompetence and egomaniacal qualities and soooo much more. But alas, it's past that point...then again, I have a feeling she's going to be around for a while. She craves attention and power. I'm SO glad she didnt' get into the White House!! Now, THAT would have been scary!!
Why don't you point out all the things that Biden should have known and didn't? He has been in the senate all these years and didn't even know who was president when the market crashed in 1929 and apparently didn't realize that there was no television then. Why don't they do a segment about that on Saturday Night Live? Mostly things said about Palin are not true, but who in the media cares about that? So what if she didn't graduate Ivy League? Look at all she has accomplished under very difficult circumstances. She has more executive experience than all three of the other candidates and is the only one with any guts. There was no way she could combat the lies and ridicule directed at her and she bravely took it on the chin. I'm amazed at the hate and venom even before anybody knew anything about her. She was asked about the Bush Doctrin and
ridiculed when she didn't have a specific answer. Would anyone? Actually there is NO speciic "Bush
Doctrin." There were four different times and statements by Bush that might have been considered the Bush Doctrin, according to Karl Rove and he gave he statements and dates for each one. Do you think that was EVER corrected? No, it was repeated over and over. The viciousness of it all is shocking and makes one feel dirty just watching it.
Mark my words, she will be back because the truth is known by some of the people and she's a very smart, tough lady who nobody tried to even get to know. She is hated by the elite media simply because the's a Christian, a pro-life advocate and practices what she preaches. She has more character and intelligence in her pinky than any of the people who were and are trying to destroy her.
Also, what's with the swimsuit picture? Was this the only picture you could findof her? Anybody who would do something like that is not only transparent
and stupid, but is really way below the quality of anybody I would care to associate with.
I totally agree Teresa, where is that birth certificate?!!!!!!!!!!!! Are these people going to feel like fools when they find out he isn't even qualified to be the President.
Well Gues what she has more experience about being an american and being on the job..... Can you say that about the fool the country chose as president elect.........No birth certificate, and no experience except for the 148 days he palyed senator........
Wake up people wake up!!!!!
If you don't know what the qualifications are to be the president of the United States are then you need to go back to school or do some research. You have to be a citizen of the United States meaning being born here. He cannot provide proof or hasn't yet. You need to get over it now.
Guess what he is the man in charge now and nothing the two of you do will make any difference.so stop gripping and pray that he will do a good job. And i am well aware of the qualifications of being president. but all the lies and crap people have tried to spread didn't matter then and it really won't matter now will it?
Please people go on YouTube and listen to her talking to the comedian from Montreal. She is clueless. She can see Russia from her house but she doesn't catch on when her other neighbour's Prime Minister is incorrectly called Steve Cross. By the way, most Americans would not know it is Stephen Harper but they are not running for Vice President of the Strongest Country in the world. She's a joke. McCain signed his own policital death warrant when he chose her.
Even though I just joined this forum, I can see that a few people have backed up their observations with evidence. As for having a security clearance, I would imagine that a politician involved heavily with any commitee would have more security clearance than the Governor of Alaska.If you think Russia would attack the United States through Alaska, you would be mistaken. If Russia wanted to invade the United States, through Alaska, they would have done so a long time ago. Trust me when I say that logically, a senator, involved with the federal level, would have a higher security clearance than Sarah Palin. She has no influence on international affairs; her influence extends basically to oil companies; and for a state with no sales tax it's awfully hard to lower something that isn't there. I'll take my chances with Obama, who at least has described in some detail what he would like to do. BTW, Franklin Roosevelt did something called the New Deal. Would you say that was a bad thing? Sure put a lot of people in a job, which did more for the economy because when people have money, they spend it. When people don't have money, nothing gets bought, and inventory backs up. That makes a climate of devaluation, thereby lowering prices and profit. Deflation results, and because profits go down, layoffs occur. Corporations trim their payrolls, initially gaining a profit-but only for a short time. When the money saved is used up, they have to trim some more expenses. More jobs are lost, and the first to bear this depression? The Middle Class. The very wealthy may lose some value. But when you're worth 2 billion, and you lose 500 million, you are still a billionaire. So go ahead: tell me how good the free market is, how trickle down economics are good for those who don't benefit from it, and how giving tax breaks to the wealthiest corporations and individuals creates job growth.
You know, at one time, I had trouble getting information about any candidate. Then I discovered the Internet. Of course, to get a computer, I had to borrow money to help pay for it. It will not be easy to pay it off, but luckily I make just enough. Anyway, the information is out there, just check out youtube and google video, and you will find out a lot of information that is embarrassing to McCain, and especially Palin. She brings nothing to the ticket but division, religious intolerance, and even though she believes in abstinence that didn't help her daughter. She believes in the literal interpretation of the bible, though conveniently ignoring the parts that conflict with her religious view. Such as is written several times that a woman is nothing more than a helpmate, and is forbidden to be involved in any authoritive role. She wants abortion to be illegal, even in cases of rape and incest. She was found guilty of misusing her power of office, got a passport just last year. She said that because she can see Russia on a good day she has foreign policy experience. She, to me, isn't qualified not because she's been in office about 2 years, but because she has no interest in learning about world affairs. I do not want anybody with the kind of fired up ignorance she brings to be anywhere near the federal government. McCain joked about bombing Iran. He said he was only joking, and anybody who couldn't see that needs to get a life. No, he needs to get an education. In 1953, Eisonhower used the C.I.A. to upend a democratically elected president in Iran, installing the Shah because he was favorable to U.S. interests (getting first choice at their oil). Bet your government approved history in school didn't teach you about that! Iranians felt that the United States screwed them over, and because of that, Iranian citizens saw Khomeni as actually representing them, instead of the U.S. propped Shah. President Carter let the Shah get an operation in the U.S.. Khomeni led Iranians stormed the U.S. Embassey, taking hostages and changing Carter's political life. We all know what happened then. Reagan came into office, making a deal with the Iranians-giving them arms in exchange for the hostages. So, the next time you hear McCain joking about bombing Iran, threatening to start a war, think to yourself- Is the president of Iran any different than Bush? He lied to us, made up evidence to invade Iraq, never found any weapons of mass destruction, and joked about it at a dinner. You know who has weapons of mass destruction? the United States, Russia, China, Pakistan, India. Yes, they are called NUCLEAR WEAPONS! Beware when someone in the position of President talks about things that a country never had. If Sarah Palin actually cared about the immense responsibility that comes with being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she has not shown it.
Charles,you seem to be loving Iran so much,making such a case for IRAN .Why aren't you living there . See how much that country would stand up for you. Spoiled American ,you don't know ho good you have it
McCain
1. McCain's campaign and advisers are allied with and/or supporting militants who have committed acts that any reasonable observer would define as terrorism. On July 20, while campaigning for McCain in Miami and just prior to speaking at a McCain event, Sen. Joe Lieberman met with the wife of convicted serial bomber Eduardo Arocena and promised to pursue a presidential pardon on his behalf. Arocena is the founder of the notorious Cuban exile militant group Omega 7, renowned for a string of BOMBINGS from 1975 to 1983. These men are not afraid to KILL AMERICAN CIVILIANS on US soil in the furtherance of their cause. John McCain is not afraid to associate with them, even going so far as to have cut Spanish-language radio ads for release in South Florida. John McCain has promised that, if elected, he will release Eduardo Arocena. In 1983, Arocena was arrested and charged with 42 counts pertaining to conspiracy, explosives, firearms, and destruction of foreign government property within the United States. Arocena was convicted of the 1980 MURDER of a Cuban diplomat in Manhattan. He is currently serving a life sentence in federal prison in Indiana.
His targets included:
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Madison Square Garden (he blew up an adjacent store);
JFK airport (Arocena's group planted a suitcase bomb intended for a TWA flight to Los Angeles—in protest of the airline's flights to Cuba. The plane would have exploded if not for the fact that the bomb went off on the tarmac prior to being loaded);
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Avery Fisher Hall at Lincoln Center (causing damage to three levels of the theater and halting the performance of a music group from Cuba);
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the ticket office of the Soviet airline Aeroflot;
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and a church.
2. In 1998 G. Gordon Liddy hosted a campaign fundraiser for McCain and McCain has accepted campaign donations from Liddy over the last decade, most recently in February 2008. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis.
3. John McCain was a close personal friend of Charles Keating, McCain and his family vacationed at Keating's Bahamas mansion, Cindy McCain had investments with Keating. Charles Keating is a convicted felon.
4. McCain announced he was choosing Lincoln Diaz-Balart, a Republican congressman from Miami, as his senior adviser and spokesman on Latin America. Rep. Diaz-Balart is a fierce hard-liner on Cuba, advocating, at various times, a blockade of the island, even military action if needed, to unseat Fidel Castro (his former uncle, once married to Diaz-Balart's aunt). He, too, has been a supporter of certain kinds of TERRORISTS who have struck on AMERICAN SOIL. Since 2000, Diaz-Balart and his colleague Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen have lobbied for and helped win the release of several convicted exile terrorists from U.S. prisons. Among the most notorious were Omega 7 members Jose Dionisio Suarez Esquivel and Virgilio Paz Romero, both convicted for their roles in the 1976 assassination of Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier and his American colleague Ronni Moffitt with a car bomb in Washington, D.C.
5. Beginning in 1981, Richard Quinn became the Executive Editor in Chief of the racist Southern Partisan Quarterly Review and as was still listed as the owner of the magazine as recently as 2005. Like McCain did originally, Quinn opposed the Martin Luther King holiday, writing it "should have been rejected because its purpose is vitriolic and profane." In 2000, People For American Way called on McCain to fire Quinn, listing his disparaging of Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist," his promotion of David Duke ("What better way to reject politics as usual than to elect a maverick like David Duke?") and his selling of t-shirts praising Abraham Lincoln's assassination. McCain wouldn't fire him. He rejected the guilt-by-association charge, defending the man and disavowing the publication. The Washington Post described Quinn as the "longtime adviser [who] directed the senator to a crucial victory in the Palmetto State." Politico reported that McCain paid Quinn's firms $184,000. An article that was posted on McCain's website in 2008 — that is no longer available — described Quinn as "a senior political consultant to the McCain campaign."
6. McCain spent his 70th birthday aboard Rafaello Follieri's yacht in August 2006. Follieri, who posed as Vatican chief financial officer in order to win friends and investments, pleaded guilty in a Manhattan district court to conspiracy to commit wire fraud, eight counts of wire fraud and five counts of money laundering. As part of the plea, Follieri admitted to misappropriating at least $2.4 million of investor money and redirecting it to foreign personal bank accounts that were disguised as business accounts.
7. Rick Renzi, Arizona Congressman 2002-2008, is currently under indictment for conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, concealment of money laundering, transactions with criminally derived funds, extortion, insurance fraud and criminal forfeiture. Until February 2008, Renzi was co-chair of McCain's Arizona 2008 presidential campaign, member of McCain's 2008 National Leadership Team, and a personal friend. In October 2006, McCain stated, "Rick has represented the first district of Arizona with tenacity, honesty and integrity beyond reproach."
8. McCain's campaign manager served as president of a lobbying association that fought to protect Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae from the sort of regulation that McCain is now proposing.
9. Aquiles Suarez, listed as an economic adviser to the McCain campaign, in a July 2007 McCain press release, was formerly the director of government and industry relations for Fannie Mae. The Senate Lobbying Database says Suarez oversaw the lending giant's $47,510,000 lobbying campaign from 2003 to 2006.
10. McCain's opposition to a 1994 law that made it a federal crime to BOMB or blockade abortion clinics or to ATTACK abortion doctors. McCain's vote against the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act put him in league with the Senate's most radical anti-abortion advocates, who split with more than two dozen anti-abortion senators who voted to crack down on clinic BOMBERS as a matter of preserving law & order.
11. McCain's several year membership on the board of the US Council for World Freedom, which The Associated Press describes as "part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing DEATH squads in Central America."
12. McCain spent more than a year actively seeking John Hagee's endorsement. In February 2008, McCain stated, "I'm very honored by Pastor John Hagee's endorsement today." Only after public outcry did McCain repudiate Hagee.
13. McCain actively sought Rod Parsley's support to get evangelical votes. In February 2008, McCain stated, "I'm truly honored today to have one of one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide — Pastor Rod Parsley." View Video. Again, after public outrage over Parsley, McCain was forced to repudiate him.
14. John McCain tried to circumvent campaign-finance rules that he helped create. Last year, when Mr McCain's campaign appeared moribund, the senator applied to join the presidential public financing system. Under this programme Mr McCain agreed to certain spending limits and, in turn, received access to federal matching money. (Sidenote: It's a terrible system that is basically designed to keep losers in the race.)"
15. Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced that it filed a formal complaint, dated April 22, 2008, with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) related to a fundraising luncheon held at London's Spencer House to benefit Senator John McCain's presidential campaign. The venue for the event was apparently donated to the campaign by foreign nationals, in violation of federal campaign finance laws.
16. The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain's campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about "contributions that appear to exceed the limits." The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain's August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer and wine distributor.
17. See factcheck.org for campaign misrepresentations and downright lies (The Whoppers of 20008 is the best).
Palin
1. Her husband is a past member of the Alaska Independence Party, and she has addressed the group on several occasions. The party's goal is Alaska's secession from the United States and its founder has said "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." The group, founded in 1973 by Joe Vogler, Vogler stated, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." "Keep up the good work," Sarah Palin told members of the Alaskan Independence Party in a videotaped speech to their 2008 convention six months ago in Fairbanks. She wished the party luck on what she called its "inspiring convention."
2. Steve Branchflower’s report on Troopergate contains four findings. The first concludes that Palin violated the state’s executive branch ethics act, which says that “each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Conservatives are at each other's throats, and here's what's revealing about how divided they are: The critics of John McCain and the critics of Sarah Palin represent entirely different camps.
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Skeptical social conservatives are precisely the people McCain was trying to mollify by picking Palin as his running mate. These include the faithful of the religious right who remember McCain as their enemy in 2000, and parts of the gun crowd who always saw McCain as soft on their issues.
That McCain felt a need to make such an outlandishly risky choice speaks to how insecure his hold was on the core Republican vote. A candidate is supposed to rally the base during the primaries and reach out to the middle at election time. McCain got it backward, and it's hurting him.
A Pew Research Center survey this week found that among political independents, Palin's unfavorable rating has almost doubled since mid-September, from 27 percent to 50 percent. Whatever enthusiasm Palin inspired among conservative ideologues is more than offset by middle-of-the road defections.
Even on the right, she hasn't done the job. In The Washington Post tracking poll released on Thursday, Barack Obama drew 22 percent of the vote from self-described conservatives. That's a seven-point gain on John Kerry's 2004 conservative share.
Yet the pro-Palin right is still impatient with McCain for not being tough enough--as if he has not run one of the most negative campaigns in recent history. This camp believes that if McCain only shouted the names "Bill Ayers" and "Jeremiah Wright" at the top of his lungs, the whole election would turn around.
Then there are those conservatives who see Palin as a "fatal cancer to the Republican Party" (David Brooks), as someone who "doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin" (Kathleen Parker), as "a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics" (Peggy Noonan).
These conservatives deserve credit for acknowledging how ill-suited Palin is for high office. But what we see here is a deep split between parts of the conservative elite and much of the rank and file.
For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against "liberal elitists" and "leftist intellectuals." Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.
The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity--and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.
And then there is George W. Bush. Conservatives once hailed him for creating an enduring majority on behalf of their cause. Now, they cast him as the goat in their story of decline.
The conservative critique of Bush is a familiar rant against his advocacy of big government and huge deficits--now supplemented by a horror over his embrace of actual socialism with the partial nationalization of big banks. And, yes, a fair number of conservatives were never wild about the adventure in Iraq.
Things are so bad that the internecine warriors on the right have begun copying the rhetoric of the old left. In a Washington Times column this week upbraiding dissidents such as Brooks and Noonan, Tony Blankley, the conservative writer and activist, fell back on an old left slogan, asking them: "Whose side are you on, comrade?"
This is a revelatory question. It arises when a movement has lost its sense of solidarity and purpose, when the "sides" are no longer clear. There is no unified "right" or "center-right," which is why we are no longer a conservative country, if we ever were.
Conservatism has finally crashed on problems for which its doctrines offered no solutions (the economic crisis foremost among them, thus Bush's apostasy) and on its refusal to acknowledge that the "real America" is more diverse, pragmatic and culturally moderate than the place described in Palin's speeches or imagined by the right-wing talk show hosts.
Conservatives came to believe that if they repeated phrases such as "Joe the Plumber" often enough, they could persuade working-class voters that policies tilted heavily in favor of the very privileged were actually designed with Joe in mind.
It isn't working anymore. No wonder conservatives are turning on each other so ferociously.
Above is written by E.J. Dionne, Jr. - The author of the recently published Souled Out: Reclaiming Faith and Politics After the Religious Right. He is a Washington Post columnist, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a professor at Georgetown University.
Nothing saddens me more than seeing the racism, prejudice and religious intolerance that I see on the news these days. People not liking Obama because they believe he is a Muslim (not true), or connects with Muslims. Or that he is not a Christian (which he is). Or because he doesn't like whites (not true, he was born of and raised by whites). Or because he'll make whites a minority.
He is a Christian who was born of and brought of up by whites. But the more important thing is...WHO THE HELL CARES IF HE ISN'T CHRISTIAN OR IF HE WAS TOTALLY BLACK. It shouldn't matter. Prejudice is the epitome of ignorance. Hatred is the antithesis of God's message.
- Completely got it wrong when explaining to 2nd graders what the VP role is.
- Doesn't understand what the word elite means. Thought it was an attitude. She said it is "when someone thinks they're better than others". That's arrogance, not elite. Even the interviewer questioned her not knowing what that word meant. Elite is taken from the Latin word eligere "to elect" and what elite means is, a relatively small dominant group within a large society, which enjoys a privileged status envied by individuals of lower status.
Just more examples that highlight her very fragile educational background and knowledge base. I am NOT here to defend Biden (I couldn't do that if I wanted to), so don't try arguing against him in support of Palin.
Palin is not hardly qualified to be a mother. Having babies don't make you a good parent. I'm sure she has nannies for that. How else do you explain the teen daughter getting knocked up. She can't encourage her own daughter to make the right choices but you crazy ass repubiclicans think she can influence world leaders. Yeah right tell me now who's pissing in the wind!!!!! She reminds me of a preschool teacher with that annoying voice. That voice will crack the glass not other women voting for her.
laverne ...stick to what you know...sweetie im sure that your time would be better spent washing the trailers in your park!
thank you p.s. from an EDUCATED woman
Dear Lisa - Coherence and substance is the recipe for an intelligent argument. Just curious about where you received the education of which you speak. Didn't they teach you about argument structure?
In 2012 Sarah Palin has already announced her plans to run again, only this time as President. The woman does not have the qualifications to be President, Vice President... heck, I wouldn't even select her for a lower cabinet post! Now, if she wants to be Miss Almost Vice President, wear a sash, and pose for media photos (all things she seems to be qualified for) then I'm all for it!
Palin is all AMERICAN .SAHEis not afraid to the toughest of them she can do that and remain a lady at the same time.I say Palin for press....212 yesSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Shes so Alaskan, she barely American. She's Canada's problem now.
Sarah Palin is no dummy, contrary to what most democrats think. She has more political experience than Obama. Her southwestern twang is much more direct than Obama who always speaks in generalities--"like we are considering" or "what we think is appropriate". Never a real answer!
Sarah p. is one of the strongest ladies that has come a long in a long time. She stood up to the following all over them selves press for then Sen Obama.The press and the liberals who cowards that they are attacked both Sarah's young daughter and new born baby. Sp. has more experience then now Press elect Obama and she hangs with a better class of people . No America haters or bombers. Guess thats what it takes to be press,and select a VIP.
Kaye O, it's not a Southwestern twang, it's from Idaho where she was originally from, mixed in with the Midwest, where her parents were from. Either way, it's incredibly annoying and shrill and thank god I don't have to listen to THAT voice for the next 8 years. And give me a break...she doesn't have as much experience as Obama. We've heard that one before and it didn't work out for ya, now did it? You betcha!
Man, I just found this forum and youchoose a week or so ago..I would have LOVED to post about Sarah Palin and her total incompetence and egomaniacal qualities and soooo much more. But alas, it's past that point...then again, I have a feeling she's going to be around for a while. She craves attention and power. I'm SO glad she didnt' get into the White House!! Now, THAT would have been scary!!
Why don't you point out all the things that Biden should have known and didn't? He has been in the senate all these years and didn't even know who was president when the market crashed in 1929 and apparently didn't realize that there was no television then. Why don't they do a segment about that on Saturday Night Live? Mostly things said about Palin are not true, but who in the media cares about that? So what if she didn't graduate Ivy League? Look at all she has accomplished under very difficult circumstances. She has more executive experience than all three of the other candidates and is the only one with any guts. There was no way she could combat the lies and ridicule directed at her and she bravely took it on the chin. I'm amazed at the hate and venom even before anybody knew anything about her. She was asked about the Bush Doctrin and
ridiculed when she didn't have a specific answer. Would anyone? Actually there is NO speciic "Bush
Doctrin." There were four different times and statements by Bush that might have been considered the Bush Doctrin, according to Karl Rove and he gave he statements and dates for each one. Do you think that was EVER corrected? No, it was repeated over and over. The viciousness of it all is shocking and makes one feel dirty just watching it.
Mark my words, she will be back because the truth is known by some of the people and she's a very smart, tough lady who nobody tried to even get to know. She is hated by the elite media simply because the's a Christian, a pro-life advocate and practices what she preaches. She has more character and intelligence in her pinky than any of the people who were and are trying to destroy her.
Also, what's with the swimsuit picture? Was this the only picture you could findof her? Anybody who would do something like that is not only transparent
and stupid, but is really way below the quality of anybody I would care to associate with.
I totally agree Teresa, where is that birth certificate?!!!!!!!!!!!! Are these people going to feel like fools when they find out he isn't even qualified to be the President.
Well Gues what she has more experience about being an american and being on the job..... Can you say that about the fool the country chose as president elect.........No birth certificate, and no experience except for the 148 days he palyed senator........
Wake up people wake up!!!!!
Both you Teresa and Amanda really need to get over it now.
If you don't know what the qualifications are to be the president of the United States are then you need to go back to school or do some research. You have to be a citizen of the United States meaning being born here. He cannot provide proof or hasn't yet. You need to get over it now.
Guess what he is the man in charge now and nothing the two of you do will make any difference.so stop gripping and pray that he will do a good job. And i am well aware of the qualifications of being president. but all the lies and crap people have tried to spread didn't matter then and it really won't matter now will it?
Please people go on YouTube and listen to her talking to the comedian from Montreal. She is clueless. She can see Russia from her house but she doesn't catch on when her other neighbour's Prime Minister is incorrectly called Steve Cross. By the way, most Americans would not know it is Stephen Harper but they are not running for Vice President of the Strongest Country in the world. She's a joke. McCain signed his own policital death warrant when he chose her.
I agree 100% sally m. she is a huge joke
Even though I just joined this forum, I can see that a few people have backed up their observations with evidence. As for having a security clearance, I would imagine that a politician involved heavily with any commitee would have more security clearance than the Governor of Alaska.If you think Russia would attack the United States through Alaska, you would be mistaken. If Russia wanted to invade the United States, through Alaska, they would have done so a long time ago. Trust me when I say that logically, a senator, involved with the federal level, would have a higher security clearance than Sarah Palin. She has no influence on international affairs; her influence extends basically to oil companies; and for a state with no sales tax it's awfully hard to lower something that isn't there. I'll take my chances with Obama, who at least has described in some detail what he would like to do. BTW, Franklin Roosevelt did something called the New Deal. Would you say that was a bad thing? Sure put a lot of people in a job, which did more for the economy because when people have money, they spend it. When people don't have money, nothing gets bought, and inventory backs up. That makes a climate of devaluation, thereby lowering prices and profit. Deflation results, and because profits go down, layoffs occur. Corporations trim their payrolls, initially gaining a profit-but only for a short time. When the money saved is used up, they have to trim some more expenses. More jobs are lost, and the first to bear this depression? The Middle Class. The very wealthy may lose some value. But when you're worth 2 billion, and you lose 500 million, you are still a billionaire. So go ahead: tell me how good the free market is, how trickle down economics are good for those who don't benefit from it, and how giving tax breaks to the wealthiest corporations and individuals creates job growth.
You know, at one time, I had trouble getting information about any candidate. Then I discovered the Internet. Of course, to get a computer, I had to borrow money to help pay for it. It will not be easy to pay it off, but luckily I make just enough. Anyway, the information is out there, just check out youtube and google video, and you will find out a lot of information that is embarrassing to McCain, and especially Palin. She brings nothing to the ticket but division, religious intolerance, and even though she believes in abstinence that didn't help her daughter. She believes in the literal interpretation of the bible, though conveniently ignoring the parts that conflict with her religious view. Such as is written several times that a woman is nothing more than a helpmate, and is forbidden to be involved in any authoritive role. She wants abortion to be illegal, even in cases of rape and incest. She was found guilty of misusing her power of office, got a passport just last year. She said that because she can see Russia on a good day she has foreign policy experience. She, to me, isn't qualified not because she's been in office about 2 years, but because she has no interest in learning about world affairs. I do not want anybody with the kind of fired up ignorance she brings to be anywhere near the federal government. McCain joked about bombing Iran. He said he was only joking, and anybody who couldn't see that needs to get a life. No, he needs to get an education. In 1953, Eisonhower used the C.I.A. to upend a democratically elected president in Iran, installing the Shah because he was favorable to U.S. interests (getting first choice at their oil). Bet your government approved history in school didn't teach you about that! Iranians felt that the United States screwed them over, and because of that, Iranian citizens saw Khomeni as actually representing them, instead of the U.S. propped Shah. President Carter let the Shah get an operation in the U.S.. Khomeni led Iranians stormed the U.S. Embassey, taking hostages and changing Carter's political life. We all know what happened then. Reagan came into office, making a deal with the Iranians-giving them arms in exchange for the hostages. So, the next time you hear McCain joking about bombing Iran, threatening to start a war, think to yourself- Is the president of Iran any different than Bush? He lied to us, made up evidence to invade Iraq, never found any weapons of mass destruction, and joked about it at a dinner. You know who has weapons of mass destruction? the United States, Russia, China, Pakistan, India. Yes, they are called NUCLEAR WEAPONS! Beware when someone in the position of President talks about things that a country never had. If Sarah Palin actually cared about the immense responsibility that comes with being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she has not shown it.
Charles,you seem to be loving Iran so much,making such a case for IRAN .Why aren't you living there . See how much that country would stand up for you. Spoiled American ,you don't know ho good you have it
palin is more qualified than comrade obama
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McCain
1. McCain's campaign and advisers are allied with and/or supporting militants who have committed acts that any reasonable observer would define as terrorism. On July 20, while campaigning for McCain in Miami and just prior to speaking at a McCain event, Sen. Joe Lieberman met with the wife of convicted serial bomber Eduardo Arocena and promised to pursue a presidential pardon on his behalf. Arocena is the founder of the notorious Cuban exile militant group Omega 7, renowned for a string of BOMBINGS from 1975 to 1983. These men are not afraid to KILL AMERICAN CIVILIANS on US soil in the furtherance of their cause. John McCain is not afraid to associate with them, even going so far as to have cut Spanish-language radio ads for release in South Florida. John McCain has promised that, if elected, he will release Eduardo Arocena. In 1983, Arocena was arrested and charged with 42 counts pertaining to conspiracy, explosives, firearms, and destruction of foreign government property within the United States. Arocena was convicted of the 1980 MURDER of a Cuban diplomat in Manhattan. He is currently serving a life sentence in federal prison in Indiana.
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Madison Square Garden (he blew up an adjacent store);
JFK airport (Arocena's group planted a suitcase bomb intended for a TWA flight to Los Angeles—in protest of the airline's flights to Cuba. The plane would have exploded if not for the fact that the bomb went off on the tarmac prior to being loaded);
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Avery Fisher Hall at Lincoln Center (causing damage to three levels of the theater and halting the performance of a music group from Cuba);
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the ticket office of the Soviet airline Aeroflot;
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and a church.
2. In 1998 G. Gordon Liddy hosted a campaign fundraiser for McCain and McCain has accepted campaign donations from Liddy over the last decade, most recently in February 2008. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis.
3. John McCain was a close personal friend of Charles Keating, McCain and his family vacationed at Keating's Bahamas mansion, Cindy McCain had investments with Keating. Charles Keating is a convicted felon.
4. McCain announced he was choosing Lincoln Diaz-Balart, a Republican congressman from Miami, as his senior adviser and spokesman on Latin America. Rep. Diaz-Balart is a fierce hard-liner on Cuba, advocating, at various times, a blockade of the island, even military action if needed, to unseat Fidel Castro (his former uncle, once married to Diaz-Balart's aunt). He, too, has been a supporter of certain kinds of TERRORISTS who have struck on AMERICAN SOIL. Since 2000, Diaz-Balart and his colleague Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen have lobbied for and helped win the release of several convicted exile terrorists from U.S. prisons. Among the most notorious were Omega 7 members Jose Dionisio Suarez Esquivel and Virgilio Paz Romero, both convicted for their roles in the 1976 assassination of Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier and his American colleague Ronni Moffitt with a car bomb in Washington, D.C.
5. Beginning in 1981, Richard Quinn became the Executive Editor in Chief of the racist Southern Partisan Quarterly Review and as was still listed as the owner of the magazine as recently as 2005. Like McCain did originally, Quinn opposed the Martin Luther King holiday, writing it "should have been rejected because its purpose is vitriolic and profane." In 2000, People For American Way called on McCain to fire Quinn, listing his disparaging of Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist," his promotion of David Duke ("What better way to reject politics as usual than to elect a maverick like David Duke?") and his selling of t-shirts praising Abraham Lincoln's assassination. McCain wouldn't fire him. He rejected the guilt-by-association charge, defending the man and disavowing the publication. The Washington Post described Quinn as the "longtime adviser [who] directed the senator to a crucial victory in the Palmetto State." Politico reported that McCain paid Quinn's firms $184,000. An article that was posted on McCain's website in 2008 — that is no longer available — described Quinn as "a senior political consultant to the McCain campaign."
6. McCain spent his 70th birthday aboard Rafaello Follieri's yacht in August 2006. Follieri, who posed as Vatican chief financial officer in order to win friends and investments, pleaded guilty in a Manhattan district court to conspiracy to commit wire fraud, eight counts of wire fraud and five counts of money laundering. As part of the plea, Follieri admitted to misappropriating at least $2.4 million of investor money and redirecting it to foreign personal bank accounts that were disguised as business accounts.
7. Rick Renzi, Arizona Congressman 2002-2008, is currently under indictment for conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, concealment of money laundering, transactions with criminally derived funds, extortion, insurance fraud and criminal forfeiture. Until February 2008, Renzi was co-chair of McCain's Arizona 2008 presidential campaign, member of McCain's 2008 National Leadership Team, and a personal friend. In October 2006, McCain stated, "Rick has represented the first district of Arizona with tenacity, honesty and integrity beyond reproach."
8. McCain's campaign manager served as president of a lobbying association that fought to protect Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae from the sort of regulation that McCain is now proposing.
9. Aquiles Suarez, listed as an economic adviser to the McCain campaign, in a July 2007 McCain press release, was formerly the director of government and industry relations for Fannie Mae. The Senate Lobbying Database says Suarez oversaw the lending giant's $47,510,000 lobbying campaign from 2003 to 2006.
10. McCain's opposition to a 1994 law that made it a federal crime to BOMB or blockade abortion clinics or to ATTACK abortion doctors. McCain's vote against the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act put him in league with the Senate's most radical anti-abortion advocates, who split with more than two dozen anti-abortion senators who voted to crack down on clinic BOMBERS as a matter of preserving law & order.
11. McCain's several year membership on the board of the US Council for World Freedom, which The Associated Press describes as "part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing DEATH squads in Central America."
12. McCain spent more than a year actively seeking John Hagee's endorsement. In February 2008, McCain stated, "I'm very honored by Pastor John Hagee's endorsement today." Only after public outcry did McCain repudiate Hagee.
13. McCain actively sought Rod Parsley's support to get evangelical votes. In February 2008, McCain stated, "I'm truly honored today to have one of one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide — Pastor Rod Parsley." View Video. Again, after public outrage over Parsley, McCain was forced to repudiate him.
14. John McCain tried to circumvent campaign-finance rules that he helped create. Last year, when Mr McCain's campaign appeared moribund, the senator applied to join the presidential public financing system. Under this programme Mr McCain agreed to certain spending limits and, in turn, received access to federal matching money. (Sidenote: It's a terrible system that is basically designed to keep losers in the race.)"
15. Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced that it filed a formal complaint, dated April 22, 2008, with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) related to a fundraising luncheon held at London's Spencer House to benefit Senator John McCain's presidential campaign. The venue for the event was apparently donated to the campaign by foreign nationals, in violation of federal campaign finance laws.
16. The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain's campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about "contributions that appear to exceed the limits." The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain's August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer and wine distributor.
17. See factcheck.org for campaign misrepresentations and downright lies (The Whoppers of 20008 is the best).
Palin
1. Her husband is a past member of the Alaska Independence Party, and she has addressed the group on several occasions. The party's goal is Alaska's secession from the United States and its founder has said "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." The group, founded in 1973 by Joe Vogler, Vogler stated, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." "Keep up the good work," Sarah Palin told members of the Alaskan Independence Party in a videotaped speech to their 2008 convention six months ago in Fairbanks. She wished the party luck on what she called its "inspiring convention."
2. Steve Branchflower’s report on Troopergate contains four findings. The first concludes that Palin violated the state’s executive branch ethics act, which says that “each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Conservatives are at each other's throats, and here's what's revealing about how divided they are: The critics of John McCain and the critics of Sarah Palin represent entirely different camps.
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Skeptical social conservatives are precisely the people McCain was trying to mollify by picking Palin as his running mate. These include the faithful of the religious right who remember McCain as their enemy in 2000, and parts of the gun crowd who always saw McCain as soft on their issues.
That McCain felt a need to make such an outlandishly risky choice speaks to how insecure his hold was on the core Republican vote. A candidate is supposed to rally the base during the primaries and reach out to the middle at election time. McCain got it backward, and it's hurting him.
A Pew Research Center survey this week found that among political independents, Palin's unfavorable rating has almost doubled since mid-September, from 27 percent to 50 percent. Whatever enthusiasm Palin inspired among conservative ideologues is more than offset by middle-of-the road defections.
Even on the right, she hasn't done the job. In The Washington Post tracking poll released on Thursday, Barack Obama drew 22 percent of the vote from self-described conservatives. That's a seven-point gain on John Kerry's 2004 conservative share.
Yet the pro-Palin right is still impatient with McCain for not being tough enough--as if he has not run one of the most negative campaigns in recent history. This camp believes that if McCain only shouted the names "Bill Ayers" and "Jeremiah Wright" at the top of his lungs, the whole election would turn around.
Then there are those conservatives who see Palin as a "fatal cancer to the Republican Party" (David Brooks), as someone who "doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin" (Kathleen Parker), as "a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics" (Peggy Noonan).
These conservatives deserve credit for acknowledging how ill-suited Palin is for high office. But what we see here is a deep split between parts of the conservative elite and much of the rank and file.
For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against "liberal elitists" and "leftist intellectuals." Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.
The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity--and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.
And then there is George W. Bush. Conservatives once hailed him for creating an enduring majority on behalf of their cause. Now, they cast him as the goat in their story of decline.
The conservative critique of Bush is a familiar rant against his advocacy of big government and huge deficits--now supplemented by a horror over his embrace of actual socialism with the partial nationalization of big banks. And, yes, a fair number of conservatives were never wild about the adventure in Iraq.
Things are so bad that the internecine warriors on the right have begun copying the rhetoric of the old left. In a Washington Times column this week upbraiding dissidents such as Brooks and Noonan, Tony Blankley, the conservative writer and activist, fell back on an old left slogan, asking them: "Whose side are you on, comrade?"
This is a revelatory question. It arises when a movement has lost its sense of solidarity and purpose, when the "sides" are no longer clear. There is no unified "right" or "center-right," which is why we are no longer a conservative country, if we ever were.
Conservatism has finally crashed on problems for which its doctrines offered no solutions (the economic crisis foremost among them, thus Bush's apostasy) and on its refusal to acknowledge that the "real America" is more diverse, pragmatic and culturally moderate than the place described in Palin's speeches or imagined by the right-wing talk show hosts.
Conservatives came to believe that if they repeated phrases such as "Joe the Plumber" often enough, they could persuade working-class voters that policies tilted heavily in favor of the very privileged were actually designed with Joe in mind.
It isn't working anymore. No wonder conservatives are turning on each other so ferociously.
Above is written by E.J. Dionne, Jr. - The author of the recently published Souled Out: Reclaiming Faith and Politics After the Religious Right. He is a Washington Post columnist, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a professor at Georgetown University.
Nothing saddens me more than seeing the racism, prejudice and religious intolerance that I see on the news these days. People not liking Obama because they believe he is a Muslim (not true), or connects with Muslims. Or that he is not a Christian (which he is). Or because he doesn't like whites (not true, he was born of and raised by whites). Or because he'll make whites a minority.
He is a Christian who was born of and brought of up by whites. But the more important thing is...WHO THE HELL CARES IF HE ISN'T CHRISTIAN OR IF HE WAS TOTALLY BLACK. It shouldn't matter. Prejudice is the epitome of ignorance. Hatred is the antithesis of God's message.
Sarah Palin
- Completely got it wrong when explaining to 2nd graders what the VP role is.
- Doesn't understand what the word elite means. Thought it was an attitude. She said it is "when someone thinks they're better than others". That's arrogance, not elite. Even the interviewer questioned her not knowing what that word meant. Elite is taken from the Latin word eligere "to elect" and what elite means is, a relatively small dominant group within a large society, which enjoys a privileged status envied by individuals of lower status.
Just more examples that highlight her very fragile educational background and knowledge base. I am NOT here to defend Biden (I couldn't do that if I wanted to), so don't try arguing against him in support of Palin.
Palin is not hardly qualified to be a mother. Having babies don't make you a good parent. I'm sure she has nannies for that. How else do you explain the teen daughter getting knocked up. She can't encourage her own daughter to make the right choices but you crazy ass repubiclicans think she can influence world leaders. Yeah right tell me now who's pissing in the wind!!!!! She reminds me of a preschool teacher with that annoying voice. That voice will crack the glass not other women voting for her.
laverne ...stick to what you know...sweetie im sure that your time would be better spent washing the trailers in your park!
thank you p.s. from an EDUCATED woman
Dear Lisa - Coherence and substance is the recipe for an intelligent argument. Just curious about where you received the education of which you speak. Didn't they teach you about argument structure?
called the college of up yours...creton!!!
Oh, okay, thank you. You sound very classy.