Stop Homophobia

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    11-2-2007
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Personnaly, im not a homosexual, but i do know that it's not right to call them names.

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Why is it that if you believe homosexuality is wrong, you are automatically labed as homophobic?

Joe Jonas Lover i am not different like some people who choose to be are, i believe in gay marriage and gay love and gay rights, so i say, stop being scum because you think that they are abomonations or some kinda ****!!!! just get over it!!! we are all different!!! no one is the same, not even twins!!!

homosexuality is an aberration any way you see, most homosexual are homosexual because they want to be homosexual, there is not genetic or physic alteration that makes be like that, except of the case of transexuals they are born man in a womans body or viceversa, again it is against nature (I do not belive in religions) but them again every one is responsable for their own actions, and I belive that is their rigth to be they way they want to be, and NO ONE, no one should be discriminating them for that, most people that are homphobic is because deep inside they are gays, or are mad because some people got the guts to go against society and tell every one what they are, my same concerm with drugs been legalice, that if you want to kill yourself go for it, is your life at the end you are the one that decides how to live it.

people who are homophobic are ignorant

Joe Jonas Lover what is wrong with some of you people being so mean, rude, and arrogant to people who are DIFFERENT?!!!!

I completely agree

Just thought I would take another look at this for some understanding. Can you define what love is? And what is it that characterizes that definition of love? What is the highest example of it?

I believe that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible. Discriminating against homosexuals on the job or beating them up is wrong calling them hommosexuals to center them out in public so as to make them feel uncomfortable is wrong.

But I think Christians have the right to say they think homosexuality is a sin within the church. The Bible says it's wrong.

The person who said Christians do not have the right to judge is not quite correct. Jesus said that Christians do have the right to judge others by their deeds or by their fruits. Christ commands us to judge others by looking at a persons life and their practices. If someone practices any sin on a regular basis then he says we should judge a tree by it's fruit.

If someone asks a Christian if homosexuality is a sin then the answer is a Christian should give is yes.

Lastly saying God created homosexual love is not true, God calls all sexual sin an abomination not love. Is having sex with a child love? What about if a ten year old child consents is that love as some say it is? God does not create evil and calling a sin "love" makes it neither love or right.

Galatians 5;19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

You completely missed my symbolism of the word "love"! I said, "God gave love to man", nowhere in that sentence did I say "gay love". I do not believe it possible for homoerotic love to be the same as heteroerotic love! "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve". Secondly, God passed all judgement to Jesus: We only compare ourselves to Jesus, not to man! Additionally, God does not wage sin, so to say that homosexuals are going to hell, is blasphemy, because, who are you to take the thing God has given to Jesus Christ, "Judgement". Sin, is Sin, is Sin: Because God does not wage sin, he refers to our good nature, "But we are all like unclean things, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;" Isaiah 64:6 NKJV. This verse states: Even our good deeds are like sin in God's eyes! "As it is written: None are righteous, no not one;" Romans 3:10 NKJV. These two verses pave our fate, that is why God gave Jesus to us: "He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption." Hebrews 9:12 NKJV. In conclusion, all humans are sinners: Pastor Dr. Adrian Rogers stated; "we are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners!"

I'll guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I do not think that being a homosexual is any worse or better than anyone else. I agree with you about who does the judgement, that's true, I'll leave it there, I don't want to turn it into a religious debate. But I do agree discrimination against homosexuals is wrong.

Indeed,I agree.

i also agree

Also, for all you religous fanatics (Cultavists), heed Galatians 2:21, before condemning anybodies actions! (GOAT)NeoSwede~

There you go judging me again by telling me to read the Scriptures!

Timothy D, are you a Cultavist? Then this wasn't referring to you. Secondly, this wasn't passing judgement to anyone else either. It was stating that people should practice what they preach. "Religous fanatics" say they follow the Bible, but if they themselves pass judgement, they are, in fact, not. So get off you moral high horse, stop arguing just because you can until you have something important for a rebuttal.

What the heck is a "Cultavist"?

I really don't quite understand "not passing judgement" means. To me it means this: I should not pass judgement on someone who sins as being better than I am. But I am convinced the Bible asks us to watch ourselves so as not to sin and one of those sins would be homosexuality and also, if I should be asked, do I believe homosexuality is a sin, I should answer yes. It should be preached as a sin within a church. But what I or a church should not do is say Jim is a homosexual and we should try to get him fired, or we should shun him and especially we should let everyone know that Jim is a homosexual so that people hold him to ridicule and condemnation. That kind of judging is wrong. Also saying that homosexuality is a worse sin than others is also wrong. All sins are equally wrong under God's eyes. This is a big issue where I live in Canada.

God passed all judgment to Christ Jesus, therefore, no man on earth has a right to judge anyone else; homosexual, or of different religion. All I can say, "there is a time and place for everything". I don't want to walk through the mall and see two men kissing each other, holding hand, showing any physical attachment at all. I am listed amongst the majority, have respect for those of us who don't want to see these things, and quit trying to make this all about what Gays feel! I don't stick my tongue down my girlfriends throat while at the mall and neither should anyone else. Let men and women become one with each other while in the sanctity of their homes. (GOAT)NeoSwede~

If no man has a right to judge anyone else; then why are you making that judgement?

In what sense was I passing judgement? Please tell me so I can better myself. Though, I have read, and re-read my posts and have found no indication of judgement! So, please tell me!

You just said above, "no man on earth has a right to judge anyone else" and that "God passed all judgement to Christ Jesus" First, the second statement is vague and on the face is incorrect. If man is not to judge then he can make no decisions. Secondly, God only has passed final judgement to Christ Jesus for ultimate salvation. I dare say that Christians should be God's representatives on earth and therefore make judgements for Him.

Please check your facts! Before you accuse the Southern Baptist Convention of being 'homophobic?'....whatever that may entail; you might determine a few things. First, is it possible to be against a lifestyle; harmful or not, and still love people? Second, are members of that group morally objecting to homosexuality because they hate people? In other words, what are their objections? Finally, just because someone gets teased about whom they love; is this a reason to do the very thing that you condemn. You have said that it is not right to call someone names, but all you have accomplished here is to start the name-calling in a different direction. I seriously doubt that Christ would approve of unfair treatment of those he would call morally wrong. He said, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind. And love your neighbor as yourself. The members of the Southern Baptist Convention are my neighbors, you are my neighbor, and people who take part in homosexual behavior are my neighbors. With all the blessings that Christ have showered upon me, should I give any less to these people. The answer is clearly, NO! So I do not see the basis of your petition!

lJO* I believe everyone has free-will , many people do not get to use it and express there sexuality if they are gay, lesbian or bi-sexual because of the stereo-types and abuse they recieve of the less-secure and understanding people of this world. Some people need to take a good **** look in the mirror , wake-up and realise that everybody is somebody not everyone is the same or wants to be anyway and eveyrone has to accept that were not robots and we have our own free will , how we choose to use that is up to usmurder,rape,abuse ect. are more important issues of the outbreakes of peoples free will and nature rather than who somebody loves? When has love ever been crime? Exactly. Its the one thing in the world that will ever make us all truly happy becasue without love there would be nothing , and finding that person is our choice and should not be decided other wise.

Just thought I would take another look at this for some understanding. Can you define what love is? And what is it that characterizes that definition of love? What is the highest example of it?

I may be wrong, but is there any situation in public life; in which I need to know what sexual persuasion a person has? When does it need to be expressed to others that a person has unnatural sexual relations? Please consider your definition of love when it relates to behavior that is exhibited and how that behavior affects other people. For instance, I may like to drive fast! I am a skilled driver and have been trained in high speed pursuit and evasion; but if I choose to drive like this in normal situations I may get a ticket anyway. Or I may get into an accident anyway...; so I am forced to consider other people in my decision. If I am correct, some behaviors put us at risk more than others. Do we have enough consideration for other people to check our own behavior? I have the right to yell fire in a crowded theatre; but I would be in trouble if I did. All things may be permissable; but not all things are expedient. Finally, the argument is for free-will? Then how come churches and Christians do not have the same free-will to critique as you do. All are yelling for diversity; but then the church has to be silenced under political correctness. My goodness! You can't say that!

Love is putting others above yourself. We always choose things that are not necessarily the best things for us! Apparently, our free wills have gotten us into trouble....just look at the state we are in. But just because we accept that people have free will does not mean that we have to accept the affects that their free-will has on us. In other words, there are things in this world that adversely affect our society. Although I cannot elaborate completely here; I will make one somewhat trite statement: Imagine if all people were gay; we would never procreate.

Yes but what are you comparing that to exactly? Imagine a world with no free-will? We would be wondering lost emotionless people , we might as be artificial , the state we are in is life. You find something better then come tell me. Nothing is perfect and full of harmony 24/7 if it was could u imagine the world. We have always been like this , its who we are that makes us unique and know we dont that is the whole point of free will. Its your choice but not accepting that is also creating problems could u imagine if it was the other way around and most of the population was gay and the people who wernt where often mocked for it and even abused. It would seem ridiculous its how life is created after all but we act like its all that matter creating more humans. Like we are the best. We can't prove it. We dont know how we came about or who was here first we just assume. Thats why we laugh at tales of vampires and such because we hate the idea of anything higher on the food chain than us. We are the cause of our own downfall . i think things like how we survive and the world we live in is more important than what sexuality we chose to be. And dont tell me that "imagine if all people were gay ....." because frankly as long as free will is a function to us that will never happen and you know it. Its like i said , its what makes us unique and people choosing who they want to be happy with does not affect the world. We all do. Its the unneccesary arguements over things like love that we turn into hate that affect us and the best part is we dont even realise it and we are not going to because we not each other.

We have always had free-will; but we have not always had corruption of it. You say that "the state we are in is life"; but life is much greater than what general humanity sees. In fact, most people choose based on practicality within the system of the world and how it works; but true Christians live for a different system. A system that is based on the law of God, His creative intention and power; His love, grace, mercy, holiness, etc..... Another thing...it is not Christians that most people have a conflict with concerning things like this. It is God Himself that they have a argument with. God created male and female and there was purpose in His creation. In fact, he says that it was 'good'. Does a person have the free will to reject God? In one sense, yes; but in another, no. Yes, for awhile and finally getting judged for what they deserve. Not necessarily for this one thing we are talking about...but for all the violations of God's law. But, no because God is Sovereign and will act in the world as He so chooses; which may mean controlling what choices you have. Finally, if there are any questions regarding God's judgement and salvation...I am here.

Galatians 2:21 NKJV states; "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes by the law, then Christ died in vain." Laura O.: We are not judging, nor condemning you, simply giving you an understanding of public morality! To show heterosexual / homosexual / transexual /trisexual / quadrosexual / omnisexual....ect, behavior in public is simply demeaning to others who don't want to see it! All I get from your debate, is the fact that love is there! Who do you think gave love to us? Not man, and certainly not Satan! God gave love to man, is the answer. In conclusion, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!

I think the general idea might be: LOVE is characterized by something greater than just an affinity for one gender over another. In other words, people are "preferring" to make certain choices that do not characterize love at it's greatest. Laying down your life for someone who does not deserve it is much greater love than having an affinity for who you have sex with.

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