I’ve been lurking on this thread, but enough is enough. Deborah, despite your virtuous choice not to eat meat, you stated that you are not against others doing so. How is killing a seal any worse than, for example, the pork industry? Pigs often suffer broken jaws and are force fed until they make weight for slaughter. Many others are lost to cannibalism during transportation to slaughter. I’m not trying to say this is acceptable, only that it seems much less humane than the way seals are murdered. Fish are murdered via asphyxiation. I would like to hear your reasoning as to why this is acceptable (for others) while killing seals is not. If it’s the intelligence factor, it’s arguable that pigs are as (or more) intelligent than dogs. Octopi are amongst the most intelligent of creatures, and I haven’t heard of too many activists challenging their consumption… even live baby ones. If seals were only killed for their coats, I would totally buy into that argument, but as Whos y stated, the seal is not just used for the coat. As for the argument that every portion of the seal can be mimicked with inorganic substances, I’d like to see something in pubmed about synthetic seal oil.

It’s quite simple, really. Seals are murdered in as humane a way as most food animals… better than many. But my point is not that the seal hunt should be condoned. In fact, my entire viewpoint is quite the opposite. Anyone who eats meat of any kind is a cold blooded killer. There’s no two ways about it. In fact, I’ll go a step further. Although there are probably a lot of you here who follow my way of life in limiting harm to God’s other creatures, there are likely a lot of you who don’t. Here, I am referring to the anti-seal hunting hypocrites who have the audacity to eat meat, or use any products derived from animal sources. In fact, anyone who has the nerve to use an aspirin or any other medication should be publically keelhauled (just like what we should inflict on those seal-murdering bastards), unless you’re blind as to the pain and suffering caused to the poor lab animals just so you could get rid of your annoying headache. The same goes to you righteous vegan and vegetarian hypocrites who pluck living fruit from trees. If you truly cared for any creatures other than yourselves, you’d wait till it fell on its own.

I’ve been lurking on this thread, but enough is enough. Deborah, despite your virtuous choice not to eat meat, you stated that you are not against others doing so. How is killing a seal any worse than, for example, the pork industry? Pigs often suffer broken jaws and are force fed until they make weight for slaughter. Many others are lost to cannibalism during transportation to slaughter. I’m not trying to say this is acceptable, only that it seems much less humane than the way seals are murdered. Fish are murdered via asphyxiation. I would like to hear your reasoning as to why this is acceptable (for others) while killing seals is not. If it’s the intelligence factor, it’s arguable that pigs are as (or more) intelligent than dogs. Octopi are amongst the most intelligent of creatures, and I haven’t heard of too many activists challenging their consumption… even live baby ones. If seals were only killed for their coats, I would totally buy into that argument, but as Whos y stated, the seal is not just used for the coat. As for the argument that every portion of the seal can be mimicked with inorganic substances, I’d like to see something in pubmed about synthetic seal oil.

It’s quite simple, really. Seals are murdered in as humane a way as most food animals… better than many. But my point is not that the seal hunt should be condoned. In fact, my entire viewpoint is quite the opposite. Anyone who eats meat of any kind is a cold blooded killer. There’s no two ways about it. In fact, I’ll go a step further. Although there are probably a lot of you here who follow my way of life in limiting harm to God’s other creatures, there are likely a lot of you who don’t. Here, I am referring to the anti-seal hunting hypocrites who have the audacity to eat meat, or use any products derived from animal sources. In fact, anyone who has the nerve to use an aspirin or any other medication should be publically keelhauled (just like what we should inflict on those seal-murdering bastards), unless you’re blind as to the pain and suffering caused to the poor lab animals just so you could get rid of your annoying headache. The same goes to you righteous vegan and vegetarian hypocrites who pluck living fruit from trees. If you truly cared for any creatures other than yourselves, you’d wait till it fell on its own.

Duh, you must be the stupidest person on the planet. That is what I've been saying all along, you do not obey the law but club white furred seals and sell them to ships offshore, just like you do when you go out and fish for cod each year. You ignore Fisheries and Oceans quota and and sell your illegal catch to Spanish and Portugese ships which lie off the Canadian territorial waters.

"btw, I'm still waiting for that one photo of a seal being landed on a dock and being inspected by an official from Fisheries and Oceans to make sure it's counted in the quota."

What is having a picture of this going to prove? Are you suggesting that there are no seals landed in Newfoundland?

Wesley, you're obviously just trying to get people here upset at you, like all you tree huggers do - you really need to find a new hobby. There's nobody that's actually stupid enough to not realize that you only need a PAL to buy ammunition in Canada. There is absolutely no need for a hunting licence, which is a totally different thing. This is just another example of how you're showing how stupid you are.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/w iki/Possession_... "a PAL is required to both acquire and possess firearms and to acquire ammunition." You'll notice that it says nothing of a hunting licence, liar.

As a parting gift to you, my ignorant little friend - here are some FACTS (Look that word up in a dictionary) about the seal hunt:

-A 2002 report in the Canadian Veterinary Journal found that "the large majority of seals taken during this hunt … are killed in an acceptably humane manner." This study found that 98 per cent of hunted seals it examined had been killed properly. The federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) cites this study among others as proof that the hunt opponents are wrong in their accusations of widespread cruelty.

- Canada banned all hunting of whitecoats and bluebacks (in fact hooded seals) in 1987.

And here's an actual NEWS website that doesn't come from an eco-terrorist. There are no donate buttons.

And one final thing: You know what? Go ahead and be a little bitch to sealers. There are less than 1000 of them in all of Newfoundland's 516000 people that live here. Maybe you can stop being a perpetuator of hate and racism towards the other 515000 people that are quite innocent, of which whom most don't have a clue about the seal hunt.

Deborah K. said this first, so I thought I'd copy it. But she has a good point. If the pro-sealing people think we are against sealing because they are cute, then they should take the trouble to read the other forums.

They do not deal with cute animals. Secondly Deborah K says the world has progressed. There is absolutely no need for the seal hunt. Seals do not have one thing that can not be manufactured out of inorganic (for Newfoundlanders, inorganic means non-living). materials. So hunting seals does not produce one useful product that can no be produced by other means with far less cost and does not need products from any animal whatsoever.

Submitted by Deborah K. on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 12:10
Nope G.B no leather chair here or a latte. I'm actually indulging in an organic hot chocolate and it is yummy. I am also a vegan. I eat organic and buy recycled whenever I can, so I do the best I can not to eat bits of animals.

My stand against the seal hunt has nothing to do with them being cute. I also protest against bullfighting and they are not cute animals. It is to do with animals rights and yes in days gone by when man walked along dragging his knuckles on the ground they had to kill animals to eat. However, the world has matured and progressed since then. Why is it that you receive so much critisism from all over the world? Because what you thugs are doing is no longer acceptable with the majority of people.

Hey G.B I would have no problem with witnessing a hunt but because the Canadian government and the sealers are cowards unfortunately there are laws against going anywhere near it. Get me an invitation and I will be up there with my video camera followed by anyone who wishes to come with me. We would soon see the sealer cowards run off home with their tails between their legs. Let us in there and we will soon see how many seals get killed - none! Come on put your money where you mouth is.

As I have said I couldn't care less about the sealers and making a living. Why don't you do something intelligent for a change and put your collective heads together and come up with something that you can make money out of which is enironmentally friendly and doesn't involve killing animals. Your days of killing any seals at all are numbered, but keep on fighting a losing battle if you must.

More reading about the Seal Hunt

http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/ dimages/custom/...

http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/ general/

So Liar G.B. says it's you need one but you don't need one to buy ammo because they are two different things. Yeah, that makes sense.

No, I'm just showing the world a real Newfoundlander, I suppose he is not doing it for $.

This is what Newfoundlanders do.

This is the real Newfoundland.

http://www.seashepherd.or g/seals2008/vid...

Still waiting for a photo of a Newfoundlander legally landing his seal pelts.

By the way, try posting something from a website that doesn't have a link that let's you donate $.

This is the real Newfoundland

http://www.seashepherd.or g/seals2008/vid...

IS Liar GB the biggest moron in the world, he says you need a PAL to buy ammo but it's not a permit.

Photos from the Sea Shepherd of brave Newfoundlander in Video entitled Canadian Sea Slaughter Video

http://www.seashepherd.or g/seals2008/vid...

Obviously you are incapable of having a big boy conversation, so I will try to explain more clearly. A HUNTING PERMIT and a PAL are TWO SEPERATE THINGS. A PAL let's you buy ammo/guns. A hunting permit let's you hunt animals.

You have stated that whos is a liar because he told you you did not need a HUNTING PERMIT to buy ammunition. You have responded numerous times contrary to the fact because you somehow have the ability to type google.ca and fill in a little white box.

You do not need a HUNTING PERMIT to buy ammo. You need a PAL.

It's not a hard concept to grasp. Try opening your eyes and reading the words on the page. It generally works.

And "liscense" isn't a word. License, however, is.

Still no photo of one single Newfoundlander landing seal pelts on a dock.

go get your mom / sister to have this conversation will you... it's difficlt to follow your thought pattern here...

Artcles and photos about from the Sea Shepherd

http://www.seashepherd.or g/

you need a PAL (posession and acquisition license) to buy ammo or a gun... you need a hunting permit to take that gun and ammo into the woods or wherever you are hunting... you do not need a hunting permit to by ammo

Still waiting for just one photo of one seal being landed legally.

I think Wesley is suggesting that the seal hunt does not exist and wants pictures to prove it? Have you had your drinking water tested lately?