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- Start Date:
11-2-2007 - Last Signed:
2-7-2009
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To: New Line Cinema
Attn: Robert Shaye & Michael Lynne, co-chairmen and CEO
This petition is also being distributed to all major retail video distributors.
The undersigned are boycotting the movie
The Golden Compass.
THE GOLDEN COMPASS, a new movie targeted at children, will be released December 7, 2007. This movie is based on the first book of a trilogy by atheist Philip Pullman. In the final book a boy and girl kill God so they can do as they please. Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that "My books are about killing God."
The movie is a watered-down version of the first book and is designed to be very attractive in the hope unsuspecting parents will take their children to see the movie -and that the children will want the books for Christmas.
The movie has a well known cast, including Nicole Kidman, Kevin Bacon, and Sam Elliott. It will probably be advertised extensively, so it is crucial that we get the word out to warn parents to avoid this movie.
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dude seriously calm down, who cares if its atheist or not, dude if your right and your going to heaven then who cares as long as you know your getting in then why debate these type of things its just a movie, and these things are trivial if your right your right
But what these people dont like is that some people are challenging what they say and subconsciously they are doubting if they are right. That and its fun to try to get your point across and let your voice be heard. At least it is for me but I do skip to the beat of a different violist. GO VIOLAS!!! VIOLAS AND OOPMPA LOOMPAS WILL ONE DAY RULE THE WORLD!!!
Ouch, no one wants the violas to rule. Oh well, I guess it will be a hostile take over, no problem. Anyway back to the topic at hand. I want to know whats so evil about this book and movie. I want answers that are not obvious you just read on the net that Pullman is an atheist, that's a stupid reason. You dont know the religion of most authors and when one is honest you prove why I will think about sharing my religion unless asked first.
I WOULD NOT ACCEPT THIS INTO MY HOME
FOR MY CHILDREN TO WATCH .AND HOPE YOU DONT
SUE G
How much do you really know about this movie and book? Im not trying to be disrespectful, I just want to know.
Jusst remeber people, if you tell your kids "THIS BOOK IS EVIL! I FORBID YOU FROM EVER READING IT!!" (start loud booming echo)then they will more than likey go and read it, they will just let you think they're still obedient and not let you know. This isn't to say you should stop trusting your kids, its to say; If you want to create curiosity about something, the easiest way is to forbid it and put it on the top self. Your child will want to know whats so bad and read it then. If you really dont want your kid to read it tell them you would prefer they didnt, and kindly, softly tell them why you dont approve, then step back and let them friggin live.
Good point Aqua!
Of course it is, I made it! ;)
I saw it, i loved it! unless your kid is einstine they wont even begin to make a religious refrence. really even if its the hardest thing you ever have to do watch it...you'll see what i mean...i cant wait for the second one.
Open your MIND and let CREATIVITY in. CREATIVITY is what your Bible is. You weren't there when it was written so how do you know it's ALL truth? HUMANS wrote and rewrote the Bible so there's bound to be fictional things CREATED to make people crazy biggots. Open. Your. Minds.
There has been PROOF of the Bible storys.
The premise you use is that because the Bible was written over and over again by humans that it is fictional. FAULTY LOGIC. I could write an original phrase many different ways and it does not make it fiction. The best approach for the beginner in these matters is to actually read a book on historical textual criticism before opening the jaw about what is truthful.
That is a good point about the Bible. Saying the same message in different ways does not make it fiction. Some Christians on this board have been accused of not reading the trilogy simply because they don't like it. It's like being accused of never haven really eaten parsnips because you say you don't like parsnips. But I wonder how many people on the other side of this debate who don't like Christianity have read the Bible or even just the New Testament?
Studied the old testament objectively. Have read lots of the new testament. was a jesus freak in high school. member of fca. so what happened to me? i began to THINK. so yes, i have read the bible and i do think there are some great lessons and stories of love and compassion. i particularly like proverbs because they appeal to reason and logic. and i don't dislike christianity - i just cannot find any truth in it.. my issue has been with people who lead with blind ignorance and encourage others to follow - boycotting something based on ill-based supposition rather than a personal account or experience of what they are condemning.
Michael..thats fine to have the point-of-view you have! I just begin to question how you express it. For instance, You say that you began to "THINK;" as if Christians do not think. And that you "just cannot find any truth in it." First, believing in Christianity is not easy and neither is being a Christian if you are living out the Word of God in your life and continuing a relationship with God. People condemn faith as something that people just accept; when it really means having an evidential knowledge of something where everything is not crystal clear yet. But the point is: it is not blind faith. I personally look at creation/evolution for instance and think (through the evidence) that intelligent design has better evidence; which only supports the information given in Scripture. Not only is it "stories of love and compassion," but THE STORY of love and compassion! You explain one human or worldly story that compares with a holy and loving personal God dying to satisfy the wrath of God for sin in the world. It not only explains things like creation; but the problem of evil; and essentially provides a total worldview when other belief systems cannot. For example, Buddism attempted to explain evil; but could only come up with important questions...not solutions. Finally, when you said you could not find any truth in it; what I interpret you to mean is that you failed to understand it. Christians do not create their own truth; they simply accept (by evidence and faith) what God says in His Word is TRUTH. In other words, everything that can be done on earth is best practiced by using the Word of God to get through it. The worst times of suffering in my life have been when I deceived myself into thinking I could live without God. I found out that living that way can only lead to darkness and ultimately death. (I literally almost killed myself) NOTE: And yes, I know by giving that information that some will say, "SEE, he really is crazy!" But, I am hoping that you and others will see that any of us could find ourselves in the same circumstances. The "world" is not beautiful to people by any stretch of the imagination.
But, the reason buddhism appeals to me more so than christianity are the questions. constantly raising questions is a much better avenue to understanding than pure acceptance. that is what i mean when i said i began to THINK. to me thinking means questioning. and yes you will find answers - sometimes more than one, sometimes none at all. but if you don't question how can you know. and in that experience, none of the answers i received or didnt receive validated christianity in my mind. now, that in no way means i disrespect your choice of faith and the zeal by which you live it. life is pragmatic. my experiences have pointed me to my truth, and yours have pointed you to yours. i think the biggest question is - can we live with that? i think we can.
I can live with that answer! But, since your thinking....please think about these two things: 1. If a man finds an answer, should he go on questioning it or live it out to determine it's truth? 2. Just because life in this world is pragmatic, does it mean that you have to live by those rules? I don't know how old you are, but I have spent a long time questioning when I should have been 'LIVING." And even though I loved my own way of pragmatism (which did not work for me, by the way); I would rather live a more radical way that goes against the rules of the 'world". If you need any explanation..I'm around occasionally. God Bless you Buddy!
Amen to what Timothy D. has said. I could not do better myself
Hi Michael, I can respect that point of view. I read Philip Pullman many years ago when his books first came out, in fact I met him once at a fantasy convention. But you do have a point there. I was responding to someone elses point without referring to the book and this board is about the book. I don't want to give a personal account about the books, not because I can't, it's because I don't wish to. In that sense what can I say, you are right. I hope you realize I meant no disrespect to you or your posts. Wes.
The bible asks non believers to open their minds as well. Calling someone who says Christians are "Crazy Bigots" because the Bible is "fiction," then by the same logic, if you read fiction, then that makes you a crazy bigot too.
Romans18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Somehow I don't think you would agree with these verses. Yet the Bible says what it says.
Don't I have the right to "open my mind" and say I think this scripture is the truth?
There is a vast difference between reading and enjoying fiction, and taking it literally. No one on this post advocating Pullman's writing literally believes his stories. We might find them to be laced with great messages about love, friendship, and maturation, but no one is preaching prophecy related to Pullman's work. Now, I would like you to point out these "misrepresentations" you accuse Seculars of posting. I have asked you to speak about the book and you have refused - citing satan as your excuse. Are you going to continue to use your religion as a veil, or will you be mature enough to appropriately discuss the books.
If you like the book and get things that mean things to you, then read them. I was only giving my opinion about them. I have an opposite opinion and feelings from them. I think I've proved I've read the books and my opinion is based on them, not what others have said as once was said about me. I've already said no to your request to debate on the terms in your post and my reasons for doing so. You want people to respect your right to read and debate but you question my right not to want to debate about the topic on certain terms. I'm sure you will find people who will want to debate on those terms, but why ask me again when I've already said no? I already said I don't believe in fiction that has no reality. It may have no history or historical facts but there are other fact other than historical events. I don't believe any author can write a thing as pure fiction. It always includes the author's feelings about people, issues, religion, an idealism or a set of idealisms, political and social issues and sometimes themselves speaking through a character. Fiction may not be history, but it always has something to say the author believes in. I understand you disagree. I again say that if you believe that fiction is entirely fictional then I am not one to argue with. I admit that you could be right, what you say could be true, whether I believe it or not is immaterial. My opinion that there is always fact in fiction is only my opinion and I admit that.
There is a person here who probably thinks I'm an idiot and a bigot, but she didn't call me those names and when I said I didn't want to talk about the book in the same terms you did, she respected my reason. She even pointed out that in my post I used the words "Hitler" and Stalin" when she had never used them in her post. She showed me respect even though she disagrees with me strongly. Respect means taking no for an answer. In my post above I was responding to someone who used the word "bigot" against a Christian(s), by showing that knife cuts two ways. He is entitled to his opinion about the Bible, that it is fiction and Christians have closed minds, but not to use that word. In fact his post would have been better without it. Just my 2 cents to the other side, I stepped over the line and was called on it by the other person and I hope I haven't done so again. But Christians don't like being called names either. I also notice the original poster never said that I didn't have the right to express my views in a response, even though he likely strongly disagrees with them.
I'm not calling you an idiot or a bigot, I'm calling you a coward. What are you afraid of? You'll state that Pullman has an atheist agenda, you'll say atheists have posted "misrepresentations" from the books, you'll reference hitler and stalin - but you won't back your opinions by referencing and discussing the books. You are using your religion as a veil and that is gutless and sad. I cannot respect anyone who will spout off opinion but run away when confronted. You're right, the original poster never said that you did not have the right to express your views. I never said that either. In fact I am encouraging it because I would like to see some basis for your loathing of Pullman and the books. I would like to know what about the books make you think they are the work of satan. I want you to express your views because then your opinions might have some weight - because right now they are thinly masked condemnations and nothing else.
I am not denying Pullman is an atheist - he admits it - but how exactly does that equate to an evil agenda? I did not know promoting free thought was such a heretical act. By the way, respect is not taking no for an answer. I respect your right to have your opinion, but I cannot respect someone who uses their faith as a defense mechanism in order to avoid a conversation based on reason and reference.
I had planned to take grand nieces but that will not be happening, I respect a person right to believe what he wants to believe:however, I have no respect for a sneak, someone who hides behind the truth/fantasy to tell a lie.
Unfortunately that is Philip Pullman in a nutshell, they say they read the books but the Angel never claims God is in fact not God, just another angel, they say they have read the books and say God/angel is not killed because he wasn't God anyway. They say Philip Pullman never said he wrote his books to show children that atheism is the truth, but he did. There are so many misrpresentations an this board from the Atheists on it and only one Christian who has enough guts to tell the truth. Look at Casey M's post, it is a perfect example of calling the Bible "created." Well then so are so Philip Pullman's books and by Casey M's definition he is a crazy bigot.
I clicked on the link to research the movie to see if I wanted to see it or not. If the type of people that liked the movie are so nasty, rude, and arrogant I don't care to see it. I have already done all the research I need to!!
If I've been rude, Im sorry. If you look throught it there are many kind people who (some are christian) loved this movie. The reason some of the people are rude is because they are cut down and called athiests and satanic and **** like that. It makes them sad and annoyed
to many attacks on christianty! not all of us are tyrants Hitler the most evil person ever was an atheist so is castro! the belief that an atheist society would be peaceful is myth
Hitler was a jew. Why wouldnt an atheist community be peaceful, if thats the case, a peaceful christian is a myth too. No community can be totally peaceful, it's aginst human nature. Humans are competative and there is no way around that. Not even a household can be totally peaceful.