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Vote - Evolution, Intelligent Design, Neither

116 Votes
  • Start Date:
    1-2-2007
  • Last Vote:
    10-12-2009

Issue:

Certainly, Intelligent Design is not scientific, but neither is evolution. Scientists neither observed nor verified by experiment macroevolution and the chemical formation of the first cell.

Belief:

Remove biological origins from the natural sciences and make it a separate course like archaeology, cryptology and other forensic sciences that rely on observation and logical inference.
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So, when you are dying I guess most of you will call on Darwin!....Ok, that's cool...Then it's LIGHTS out..I'm sure you will feel great comfort in that....God Bless!!
One more comment to the creationists who read this. The original Hebrew word in Genesis is literally translated "organized" So God so ORGANIZED the world. Even if you are a Bible-Thumper, you must recognize that there was something here to be organized and where did that come from? Ask some questions and stop accepting everything so placidly.
How can you say that evolution is a theory? It's a theory that has been fairly well proven except to some Neanderthal religionists.
Both. People have the right to choose :)

The banana proves evolution. Wild bananas are almost unbearable for humans to eat. Through selective evolution and breeding, humans made the banana easily edible for humans.

Evolution also isn't supposed to explain how the first cell, or life, was created. That's abiogenisis. Evolution explains how the species that currently exist on earth live, function, and live how they do now.

Thank you for realizing that ID is not science. Most supporters of the theory won't even DARE to admit that.

The problem with your thinking is that evolution IS science. It has been repeatedly verified by observation and experiment, along with abiogenesis (how life originally formed.)

For the sake of time and space, I will not go into detail on the various processes, but there are quite a few videos on youtube dealing with the subject that explain a lot better than I could. DonExodus2, Thunderfoot, AronRa, and AndromedasWake have excellent series that explain point by point what is wrong with creationism and give peer-reviewed scientific evidence to support why evolution is correct. CDK007 has two excellent videos that show our current model for how life originally began. I hope this helps!

God told Adam and Eve to not take a bite of an apple of the forbidden three,BUT they didnt know the differense between right and wrong before they took a bite of the apple,so they didnt know that obeying was the right thing to do.
God said they would die if they took a bite of the apple, but they didnt.
The snake said they would get smarter, they did.

An all loving, all knowing, intelligent god?
BITE ME!

i have lost all belief in science. it has come down to either believing in God or evolution and honey i pick God over EVERYTHING. God made me and i know that. i have one question though. if we really evolve from monkies then why havent they all become people yet?

Dear Megan, I hope you get a life SOON. Your imaginary friend, "GOD" isn't going to help you. Pull yourself out of your illusions and start to work on reality.

Monkeys aren't humans, and never will be. We are RELATED to monkeys and the Great Apes. We had a COMMON ANCESTOR. The reason there are still monkeys and apes in existence is because they branched off from the common ancestor species, adapted to their environment, and eventually had changed so much that breeding with humans, and the common ancestor, was no longer possible. Just because YOU don't understand how evolution works, doesn't mean it's not scientific.

Megan V.

If you have lost all belief in science, please go live in a cave wearing nothing but skins from animals that you have caught yourself with you bear hands. You are no longer able to use any technology, as that is a product of science, and science is evil, right?

So you would rather be taken from a mans rib, and worship a mad invisible man in the sky that doesnt respect you for having tits and no penis, than being a distant cousin of the monkeys?

Btw, the monkeys we evolved from arnt the same monkeys that you can see in the zoo.

All earthly scpeasies adjust to their invironment. That is the reason some people are black, and some people are white.

Withe skin is more fragile to ultraviolet lighting, the human body needs some ultraviolet lighting. In the north where there aint a lot of lighting, white skin makes it easier to absorb light.

In the subtropical invironment, there is a lot of lighting and black skin helps block the light, so the body doesnt get too mutch.

Life evolves the way it needs to in order to survive in its environment.

The monkeys are they way they are, because it is how they survive.

My guess is that the monkeys we know today evolved from(or still are pretty mutch the same as), lived in a better earia of africa(Where humans evolved), than we did. So we had to learn how to survive in a more rough invironment, the distanse between were we found food increased (invironments has always shifted)and we had to learn to walk, standing up.
We became "homo sapiens sapiens" literally means that we know that we know.

Does that awnser your question?
The reason you didnt have that awnser yourself is that no one told you about these researches that has prooven evolution.
And it is why it should be thought undisturbed by brainwashing dogma that tells you that being human is bad!
Curisoity is how we learn, religion condems it, it blocks a certain lust of ours that tells us to wonder and want to learn, it is human to do so, relgion says its bad to question and that we should just obey. If we all did that, we would be stuck at were we are.

People like the word of freedom, but they seem to have forgotten it`s meaning..

god so made me.

Of course I believe in intelligent design, are you kidding me. I mean, for the love of God, would I ever in a million years think that the picture my lovely 2 year old handed me and called the "bitsy bitsy spider" was random?? No. I see the way she thought out the posing of the legs and that she desires to make known her understanding that they are needed for walking...and why did she draw three spiders? are they friends? did she feel they needed friends? will i ever know? why does one have two distinct eyes and one not have any at all? Is one blind in her mind? Why all the squiggles around them and highlights of different color? am I to write them off as just "accidental markings?" but you see, I cannot, because this is my child who handed me this magnificent creation. And she even told me "look mom, it's the bitsy bitsy spider..." who am I to renounce that? And that which her picture has so evidently proven? I am no one, and neither are we. Our father has handed us lovingly beautiful pictures of landscapes, spacescapes, humanscapes, colorscapes, emotionscapes, musicscapes, passionscapes, etc., and yet we still DARE to question what the heck they are -- random, evolution, mere happenstance? What the heck? So of course I am the LAST person you'd want to enter into such a discussion, but because I am a lover of science and the OALI of such, I could completely concur they are best left to separate courses, but I'd also be the first to tell you that every single day you witness the biggest and most amazing observation and logical inference you will ever make -- and that is the next breath you just took.

Neighter

Either we allow for an honest and open discussion of all relative THEORIES of origins, or we just take this out of our schools' science programs. Talk to any of the leading microbiologists and they will tell you how evolution cannot account for the miraculous and marvelous intricacies of cellular structures. Pair them up with a mathmatician and they will show you the improbable numbers of a "Big Bang" being able to bring biological life into being. So take your pick, talk about Evolution, talk about GOD, talk about intelligent design (which could include aliens), you name it, it now becomes a philosophy class on origins. Which is really where it should have been all along. STOP teaching evolution as FACT because it is rife with unsupported evidences.

Sharon, You sound like an intelligent person. Surely you wouldn't take something as important as Darwin's theory out of a science class just to give equal time to an imaginary God who is certainly more ill-defined than evolution. Do you want public schools to teach about EVERY origin, including the turtles of Native Americans, etc? Is there time in the day?

amen.

You know, there are some facts in the Bible that are able to be proven in the world today, anyone who's interested can go to www.answersingenesis.org/ which is an extremely creationist site online, they prove evolution both unrelated to the bible and absolutely false and they also teach how creation has more evidence in it's favor than evolution. I'm not saying that creation is provable, but evolution is definately disprovable.

I wouldn't go to answers in genesis as a reliable source. Most of the content is considered pseudoscience which means it looks or tries to appear as looking like a science but it doesn't follow the scientific method or have supporting evidence or plausibility. On the other hand The theory (scientific definition of a theory)of evolution has supporting evidence and has undergone scientific testing unlike creationism.

there is no way to even test Intelligent Design to see if it could work that is the number one reason it should never be part of school

The hteory of evolution has proof and evidence just piling up while intelligent design has none whatsoever. I think that this is a shut case.

The "theory" of evolution needs some competition.

Alright, I don't know where you're getting your information, but evolution is a science. Evolution. Is. A. Science. It has been tested and it has been proven. That does not mean you have to believe we share common ancestors with apes. That does not mean you have to go against your faith. Besides, evolution and religion are not mutually exclusive, but that's another topic. Evolution relies heavily on "observation and logical inference"; if it didn't it wouldn't be a scientific theory. Please note the "scientific" aspect of the theory, too. There is a difference between theory in the scientific sense and theory in the sense of the common vernacular. Don't confuse them.

If it has been "proven" then why are they still looking for missing links? There are people that study the "science" of time travel, but last time I checked we weren't warping people back to the Middle Ages...lol. Just because something is a science or scientific doesn't make it accurate or truth.

MichaelR(B.B.B.09)a scientific theory is based on and tested against provable facts to within a fairly minnamal margin of error.not perfect of course.hence continued scientific study in all fields.intelligent design is based on myth,stories,mans need to believe he is special,and an almost pathalogical refusal to even contemplate that this.this life is all there is.why would that make it less precious?i mean we all need a teddy to protect us from the dark as children,but as we grow we realize a piece of cloth and fluff has only the power of imagination.

I agree, reality is harsh, but you cant go wrong with it.

Wow it is true, 2/3 of people have imaginary friends who they talk with. I stopped when I was 6. Learn your science and you'll never be troubled by hallucinations again. You either believe that the universe is infinite, and accept all that that entails, or you make up a god and believe in the easter bunny.

well put...

Yes definitely make it a separate course, or even better, just remove it! I can not believe that people actually still believe this evolution rubbish. One of the most influential theories that came from someone with the scientific knowledge of my granny. So many people who claim to be intelligent make the school boy mistake of confusing speciation with evolution, which are two completely different processes. Speciation does occur and has been scientifically proven and occurs every day, but when was the last time you saw a fish get up and walk out of a river or saw a monkey make itself tools? Never! Why? Because it doesn't happen! This is what evolution teaches! Lies! Sure you might say it takes millions and millions of years, but you can't just turn evolution on and off, chances are we would have seen at least one occurance of this over the period of recorded history. But we have'nt, hence why it is still a theory and a very bad one at that. Personally I believe in creation, though I'd even believe steady state theory before I'd believe this rubbish.

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