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Florida & Michigan Delegates

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  • Start Date:
    2-22-2008
  • Last Vote:
    10-5-2008

Issue:

Should the Democratic National Committee recognize the results of Florida's and Michigan's primaries and seat their delegates at the 2008 Democratic National Convention?

 

Belief:

The DNC penalized Michigan and Florida for moving their primaries to earlier dates in violation of party rules. Both states were stripped of their delegates, and the party's presidential candidates signed a pledge not to campaign in either state. Florida lost all 210 delegates, including its "super delegates"; Michigan, 156.

The DNC has said it would allow both states to hold different contests, probably caucuses. Either state also can appeal the penalty to the DNC credentials committee. It will not meet again until summer.

57%
Yes.
43%
No.
Forum Discussion for Florida & Michigan Delegates

florida has been screwed enough and if they were going to count they should have done it when hillary was still in the race.

Of course the votes in Michigan and Florida should count. Just because this idiot Howard Dean does not want these 2 states represented is no reason not to allow their votes in. I am an independent but bad as I hate Clinton and McCain the democrats will be doing us a huge favor if they allow the mentally challenged Howard Dean to ignore these 2 powerful states. Then the democrats in Florida and Michigan will vote Republican.The way Hillary has been treated by Dean and other democratic leaders hopefully her supporters will vote for McCain Also. This should give your boy Obama about 30% of the votes in the general election. Either way it will be a landslide victory for McCain. Democrats are not known for their intellect or loyalty.

no.whats the point of making rules if were just going to ignore them as long as enough people whine about it after the fact.both states were warned before they changed their primary dates.they obviously believed the rules of our party didnt apply to them.to change the rules now in yhe midst of such an historic primary could forever cast the results of this race in doubt and devide our party when we have never needed unity more. B.B.B.09

I thank they should do away with caucases. They are not fair.

As a democrate and a Florida, if my vote doesn't count for the primary, then it will count for the general election, and that vote will be for McCain. Hillary is the most qualied for the job. Obama is a fluke, and if he's the pick for the democates, they will lose, because once someone finally has the courage to dig into his background, the skeltons will be singing when McCain is sworn in.

Amen, you tell them how it is Sue. You might want to consider changing to an independent anyway. What have the democrats and republicans done for our country in the last 25 years? Both parties are corrupt, lazy and refuse to enforce our immigration laws as well as steal billions of taxpayer money for pork so the greedy and egotistical bastards can be reelected to a job that pays a very high salary with great benefits and only a 3 day week to spend in Washington. I will not call it work because they do none. We are much better off when they decide to celebrate potato day for 3 weeks and stay out of Washington.

NEVER OBAMA! IF HILLARY IS NOT THE NOMINEE, WE WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN PROTEST! BECAUSE, LUCKY OBAMA WINS BY DEFAULT, IF MI AND FLA., ARE DENIED A "DO OVER! ITS UNFAIR ENOUGH THE WAY THE DELEGATES ARE AWARDED AND THE UNRELIABLE,INCONVENIENT CAUCAS COUNT. CLINTON VOTERS CAN'T ATTEND DURING MOST CAUCUSES. SAD AND MAD DEMOCRATE IN FLORIDA! VIVIENNE AVARE

Florida's ballot had all names present so that vote should count. In Michigan there should be a redo. A supporter of Sen. Clintons has offered 15 million for a redo if Sen. Obamas campaign will raise 15 million. For a man who raised 40 million in March, that should be easy. He could just call Oprah. Why does he delay? Must be afraid of a do over.

Uh, let's see. There are rules. The rules state "such and such" and we all know the rules ahead of playing the game. Now one party, after the fact, doesn't like the ramifications of the rules and wants to change them. Am I misstating what has happened? In a country where we take out silly mortgages that can never be paid and then ask other taxpayers to pay off the mortgages for us, because again we don't like the rules we've signed onto, what else would we expect! Of course, change the rules. Integrity or flim-flam. It's a simple choice. I guess we'll see which course fits us best.

DEMOCRACY IS NOT DEMOCRACY WHEN CERTAIN VOTES ARE CONVENIENTLY DISREGARDED. The rules of the Constitution and the American guarantee to the right to vote should supercede the ridiculous rules of the Democratic National Convention in a heartbeat.

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